6 8Cs... bloody hell!
Ticklist for my time in Brno ✅.Kostej Nesmrtelný 9aPerla Východu 9a.Drift 8CPata Ledovce 8CBulbasaur 8C FAGhost Rider 8CTekuté Štěstí 8CIceberg 8CCharizard 8B+ FlashSila je Kouzlo 8B+Svini Mor 8B FlashLeda Kost 8BH1N1 8BKouzelný sauce 8BPatička Ledovce 8A+Fénixovy Slzy 8A+ FlashThe Swirl King Sit 8A+ FA FlashBlatant 8A+Kapka z poháru nesmrtelnosti 8A+ 1st goŠvédský závodník Hotofson Sit 8ASmrad Dálek Sit 8A2nd place Czech climbing cup
For anyone unable to see the insta post:Quote Ticklist for my time in Brno ✅.Kostej Nesmrtelný 9aPerla Východu 9a.Drift 8CPata Ledovce 8CBulbasaur 8C FAGhost Rider 8CTekuté Štěstí 8CIceberg 8CCharizard 8B+ FlashSila je Kouzlo 8B+Svini Mor 8B FlashLeda Kost 8BH1N1 8BKouzelný sauce 8BPatička Ledovce 8A+Fénixovy Slzy 8A+ FlashThe Swirl King Sit 8A+ FA FlashBlatant 8A+Kapka z poháru nesmrtelnosti 8A+ 1st goŠvédský závodník Hotofson Sit 8ASmrad Dálek Sit 8A2nd place Czech climbing cupAny idea what 1st go means as opposed to flash? Does it share moves with others that he climbed maybe?
Quote from: edshakey on April 25, 2022, 05:31:59 pmFor anyone unable to see the insta post:Quote Ticklist for my time in Brno ✅.Kostej Nesmrtelný 9aPerla Východu 9a.Drift 8CPata Ledovce 8CBulbasaur 8C FAGhost Rider 8CTekuté Štěstí 8CIceberg 8CCharizard 8B+ FlashSila je Kouzlo 8B+Svini Mor 8B FlashLeda Kost 8BH1N1 8BKouzelný sauce 8BPatička Ledovce 8A+Fénixovy Slzy 8A+ FlashThe Swirl King Sit 8A+ FA FlashBlatant 8A+Kapka z poháru nesmrtelnosti 8A+ 1st goŠvédský závodník Hotofson Sit 8ASmrad Dálek Sit 8A2nd place Czech climbing cupAny idea what 1st go means as opposed to flash? Does it share moves with others that he climbed maybe?Absolutely unreal. He says in a comment it shares the start hold with another problem so he doesn’t consider it a flash. That’s very strict in my book. But I guess it is a clear line in sand. Any shared moves/holds = no flash.
I can't believe anyone would consider shared holds to mean anything elseedit: actually, who am I kidding, I can definitely believe that
Quote from: 36chambers on April 25, 2022, 07:57:05 pmI can't believe anyone would consider shared holds to mean anything elseedit: actually, who am I kidding, I can definitely believe thatIf it's literally just the start hold that is shared then you're not really practising the moves on one problem by trying the other. I'd probably take the flash on both, what with my loose morals.
An equivalent scenario might be in the Cave where you had already done RA. Could you still flash Cave Life? (the starting holds being the same) The jury's out...
That how it begins, next you'll be crouching a sit start, off 4 pads, 3 moves in, 2 meters to the right of the actually climb, dabbing your way to finish with a one hand "match" drop off, on a recently excavated jug, below the top out, and claiming your first 7A.
Quote from: Kingy on April 25, 2022, 08:35:03 pmAn equivalent scenario might be in the Cave where you had already done RA. Could you still flash Cave Life? (the starting holds being the same) The jury's out... No. Make your choice on the flash go ofc!
Logically you're implying that even touching the start hold without pulling on would invalidate the flash; it's the same thing.
Quote from: yetix on April 25, 2022, 09:08:58 pmQuote from: Kingy on April 25, 2022, 08:35:03 pmAn equivalent scenario might be in the Cave where you had already done RA. Could you still flash Cave Life? (the starting holds being the same) The jury's out... No. Make your choice on the flash go ofc!Surely it's the moves that are important; the moves of the two problems are totally different right from pulling on, so there's no way in my mind that doing one would invalidate the flash on the other. Logically you're implying that even touching the start hold without pulling on would invalidate the flash; it's the same thing.
Quote from: Bradders on April 25, 2022, 09:49:08 pmLogically you're implying that even touching the start hold without pulling on would invalidate the flash; it's the same thing.Not quite. Pulling onto a start hold and taking both feet off the floor, then stepping off again, would invalidate a flash n’est-ce pas?
Quote from: Bradders on April 25, 2022, 09:49:08 pmQuote from: yetix on April 25, 2022, 09:08:58 pmQuote from: Kingy on April 25, 2022, 08:35:03 pmAn equivalent scenario might be in the Cave where you had already done RA. Could you still flash Cave Life? (the starting holds being the same) The jury's out... No. Make your choice on the flash go ofc!Surely it's the moves that are important; the moves of the two problems are totally different right from pulling on, so there's no way in my mind that doing one would invalidate the flash on the other. Logically you're implying that even touching the start hold without pulling on would invalidate the flash; it's the same thing.Soon you'll be saying that taking a hold with your left hand on one problem means you can use it with your right hand to flash an adjacent problem. Then before you know it, you'll be crouching a sit start, off 4 pads, 3 moves in, 2 meters to the right ... and claiming your first 7A.But more seriously, consider a problem where the start holds, and feet, are terrible and they require a good bit of effort to hold and move from, having held and cranked off those holds previously for one problem would be a huge advantage mentally, and physically, when "flashing" another problem. Also what actually counts as a move? If you have to do a few foot moves to place a cruxy high heel before you even move your hands, can you do that on both problems as long as you go in a different direction to different holds afterwards?"Any grey area in climbing will always get abused" (36chambers' Law), so why not make the definition as clean cut as possible?
Poor old Bosi, finally gets his own thread and what's in it? 2 pages about the aesthetics of bouldering and what constitutes a flash lmao.
If they share the same start, you need to use a different book for each problem. I recommend carrying the Harry Potter series around, as they get thicker as the series progresses, should cover the full range.
