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slab_happy:
Last year, the National Trust committed the terrible crime of publishing a report on the links between some of its properties, slavery and colonialism, because, you know, those links exist and are part of the historical context.

This caused much upset in predictable circles (strangely, the people who think pulling down statues is "erasing history" are also very opposed to, er, presenting information on history) so now a bunch of wankers are attempting a coup:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/13/national-trust-warns-of-threat-from-ideological-campaign-waged-against-it

One of their favoured candidates is this charmer:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5388626.stm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/meet-stephen-green-right-wing-christian-voice-leader-who-went-homophobic-tirade-against-stephen-fry-and-benedict-cumberbatch-10039270.html

His "why you should vote for me" section in the AGM leaflet is entirely about how much he hates the Trust's acknowledgement of LGBTQ+ issues (or LGBTQ+ people having existed ever). Entirely. Paragraph and paragraphs.

If you're a National Trust member, you can vote online (deadline 11.59pm on the 22nd Oct) -- all you need is your membership number: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/annual-general-meeting

Information on the candidates endorsed by the Restore Trust (though at least one of them appears to have been endorsed against his will and says he supports the slavery/colonialism report):

https://twitter.com/SLevelt/status/1444568195646566403

mrjonathanr:
Cheers for the nudge. Had seen the issue but I’ll make sure to vote.

I particularly liked his justification for harassing the Cardiff Mardi Gras attendees

--- Quote --- It is important that Christians should be able to stand up for the Gospel and resist any attempt by the police to trample our civil rights
--- End quote ---

Victimhood just looks so much better when you’re the actual aggressor, wouldn’t you agree?

andy popp:

--- Quote from: slab_happy on October 16, 2021, 02:01:40 pm ---Last year, the National Trust committed the terrible crime of publishing a report on the links between some of its properties, slavery and colonialism, because, you know, those links exist and are part of the historical context.

--- End quote ---

Thanks for raising this slab_happy. I was a member for many years but no longer am, for obvious reasons. The treatment handed out to Corinne Fowler and others involved in the report was horrific, from both some sections of the press and some members of the press.

More generally, over the last couple of years it's becoming blindingly obvious that Britain is still not able or ready to have a meaningful conversation about its history.

ali k:
Unrelated to this but my parents have just cancelled their NT memberships after their cycling group were recently told all of the non-members (which was over half of them) would have to pay full entry fee just to use the cafe at a place they’ve been stopping at mid ride for years. The reason given was that the NT had lost money during Covid which they now had to recoup. Seems like a pretty counterproductive new policy though. Not only did they miss out on about £100 from lunch that day but they’ve now lost at least two membership fees (plus others from the group who said they were also going to cancel) and thousands of pounds in cafe spend each year from that group alone.

seankenny:
It’s not even able to have a meaningful conversation about its present, let alone its past!

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