All the skiing and snowboarding events. Except maybe ski-jump. But even the 'standardised' ski-jumps in different locations have different prevailing weather conditions.So apart from all of these, climbing is unique.
I like the artificial boulder idea and am aware of some in the Sheffield parks. Has there been any 'good' ones created yet? If not what are the barriers, apart from money, to creating something amazing in the high 7s / low 8s for the keen?
Quote from: BRidal on July 11, 2020, 06:48:45 pmCompetitions are harder to do well in, require more time invested, and are a better representation of you're overall climbing ability than any one route could ever be, therefore they are a more rewarding pursuit.Tell that to an onsight ascent of Salathe... I find two things interesting here:1. One route? What about many routes? Comparing multiple comps to one route is potentially a bit of a straw man, it's like comparing doing 1 quick tick to 1 project. The comparison would surely be a season of comps to a season of climbing all over the world?
Competitions are harder to do well in, require more time invested, and are a better representation of you're overall climbing ability than any one route could ever be, therefore they are a more rewarding pursuit.
How far can you justify going with it though, are these artificial structures in air conditioned buildings to keep conditions consistent?
Quote from: BRidal on July 13, 2020, 11:27:12 amHow far can you justify going with it though, are these artificial structures in air conditioned buildings to keep conditions consistent?In the perfect world each boulder would be in an air conditioned space, at a fixed temperature, humidity, and altitude. In the real world, conditions would be less standardised. But this is the case to a greater or lesser extent for all other sports with fixed benchmarks and doesn't prove too problematic.
In the uk I stand by what I said. Where are the 9b+/c/c+s that the future wads will be looking for? They don’t exist. I am talking about cutting edge here and 9 a+ is not that unless your flashing it. 9a+ at LPT would only just about get an article in uk press and nothing more than a few words on 8a.nu.
I don’t know about the place you mention in Ireland but if it’s one of the islands it’s not going to happen I guess due to logistics/weather etc . Why head over there when Spain/France is easier. To be of interest it would have to be something really special such as flatanger. In the uk I stand by what I said. Where are the 9b+/c/c+s that the future wads will be looking for? They don’t exist. I am talking about cutting edge here and 9 a+ is not that unless your flashing it. 9a+ at LPT would only just about get an article in uk press and nothing more than a few words on 8a.nu.
You mean this?https://www.steve-mcclure.com/articles/142-inishmor-irelands-new-super-venue
Quote from: gme on July 13, 2020, 02:41:32 pmI don’t know about the place you mention in Ireland but if it’s one of the islands it’s not going to happen I guess due to logistics/weather etc . Why head over there when Spain/France is easier. To be of interest it would have to be something really special such as flatanger. In the uk I stand by what I said. Where are the 9b+/c/c+s that the future wads will be looking for? They don’t exist. I am talking about cutting edge here and 9 a+ is not that unless your flashing it. 9a+ at LPT would only just about get an article in uk press and nothing more than a few words on 8a.nu. I agree with the sentiments about 9a+ on LPT.But not about the island venues. These are places a wad could easily spend a week on a comfortable campsite living cheaply. The weather is good and the season is long. I think in people's imaginations it's like going to the ends of the earth in winter! If Ondra can be bothered to tour around and visit Malham/Kilnsey and the even the Tor - camping at Malham I believe, then it isn't unreasonable for top wads living in the UK to spend some time bolting and projecting world-class 9b-9cs in an 80m cave of immaculate rock a half day's travel away. I think there's an element of mistakenly thinking cutting edge climbers want it all on a plate when people have these debates - but when you look at what the really top climbers actually do, they put in the travel and the hard graft.