I agree that climbing at the tor is unwise in terms of being seen by locals and non climbers and the potential impact that has and also in terms of the backlash from the climbing community. However I really can’t see much issue with going to a isolated venue somewhere if you can get there without breaking the regulations. As I have mentioned earlier in the thread my gripes are not with a few people going climbing causing minimal transmission risks. My issues are with large industries such as the construction industry carrying on as usual and now firms like Taylor Wimpey stating that they are going to have precautions in place that will enable them to get fully back to work! This is complete BS and should be stopped. I have seen plenty of contractors out recently with absolutely no precautions going on and suspect very much that there will be no actual precautions taking place on any building sites (well precautions that are effective). Personally I haven’t gone out climbing but am becoming more and more tempted and am not keen on harshly judging others. A bit of of bouldering or some isolated sport climbing holds virtually nil risks and the longer this goes on with me seeing plenty of businesses carrying on virtually as normal the less I think the restrictions regarding exercise are reasonable. As I have said on the other BMC thread rather than think of why not to go climbing we should start thinking about how we could go climbing safely or without breaking regulations.
What happened to the BMC thread? Can't find it.
I'm sure this has been said elsewhere, but the whole point surely is that the only reason it is an isolated venue, is because the rest of us are not going there. If we all said sod it, the crags would be rammed, and lockdown would get a lot stricter very quickly. I agree that a better approach long term from the BMC is to start looking at guidance so people can go climbing, but until that happens, everyone needs to play ball.
This thread really is going around in circles
coming up for 50 pages of going round in circles. Impressive even by UKC standards.
That's really why climbing now is selfish as if everyone who wanted to did Stanage etc would be rammed, people would start traveling from miles away.
Quote from: SA Chris on April 27, 2020, 12:52:28 pmcoming up for 50 pages of going round in circles. Impressive even by UKC standards.And no mentions of Dense yet!
He's turned into a bat?
Sobering statistics certainly. I wonder whether many of these collisions are to do with more cyclists, (unlikely, I doubt that there are more cyclists we all just notice them as there are so few cars) or increased carelessness by either drivers or cyclists, assuming the roads are empty. I've certainly seen quite a few cars going absurdly fast mainly within Sheffield, but some pretty dangerous behaviour from motorcycles, cyclists and pedestrians as well.