Quote from: shark on April 14, 2020, 10:03:28 amPhil Burke who lives in or near Litton has reported on UKC that he has passed non-local boulderers (5x) each time he has walked past Rubicon!Massively disappointing and at a very public venue so also very bad PR for the rest of us who will be tarred with the same brush.WCJ dale is notoriously difficult access wise. I can think of few less appropriate places climbers (locals or not)could be seen to climb on at this time. Moronic.I would question the notion that PB knows of every climber within walking distance thought.
Phil Burke who lives in or near Litton has reported on UKC that he has passed non-local boulderers (5x) each time he has walked past Rubicon!Massively disappointing and at a very public venue so also very bad PR for the rest of us who will be tarred with the same brush.
Philb1950 10:45 TueIn reply to UKB Shark:Walked past before 9 this morning with the dogs and the couple I saw yesterday are actually bivvied there!
I can confirm that I hate fuckers posting board vids Will, and that it makes you an immoral cunt.
I see the police are now using ANPR to track people and call them out for 'unnecessary' journeys... https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-dozens-fined-for-heading-to-the-beach-during-lockdown-11972845This starts to make my 'big brother-ometer' twitch...
Quote from: tomtom on April 14, 2020, 10:18:11 amI see the police are now using ANPR to track people and call them out for 'unnecessary' journeys... https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-dozens-fined-for-heading-to-the-beach-during-lockdown-11972845This starts to make my 'big brother-ometer' twitch...This is an interesting area to me. I get why this would make your big brother antennae tweaking, but I think it's absolutely right for the police to be using the tools they have available to help enforce the law. For one thing, those cameras are already there. It's not like some massive undercover surveillance system has suddenly been rolled out; it's been around for years to help manage traffic flow and prevent / detect crime. It's being used for exactly that second purpose now. For another, detecting people flagrantly flouting the rules is a clear social good in my view, and would be a hell of a lot harder without the technology. I mean the examples given are extraordinary; 200 miles for a fishing trip, 150 miles for a walk on the beach. I suspect those are the tip of the iceberg tbh, and identifying them, sanctioning them and then calling them out publically surely helps achieve our goal of stopping the virus spreading. Interested in other views though, as clearly there is a line the police need to be careful not to cross, and I am very concerned about long-term infringements on civil liberties.
Was that a prod at me to respond to your earlier post? There seem to be two arguments here - travel and SD.
People taking the piss doing anything non-essential like walking or biking or running or skipping or yoga or buying alcohol or shopping more than once every few weeks or... may be helping to prolong lockdown and risks for health and care workers, and supermarket staff among others.
I hope he has a septic tank on board.
Anyone who is still climbing outside in the current climate is acting in a selfish irresponsible way t that only risks jeopardising access for the rest of us when restrictions get lifted.
Quote from: 205Chris on April 14, 2020, 07:10:45 pmAnyone who is still climbing outside in the current climate is acting in a selfish irresponsible way t that only risks jeopardising access for the rest of us when restrictions get lifted.I've been told this morning of access being lost to 2 crags due to landowners seeing climbers there during the lockdown. I'm trying to find which they are.
Someone told you access had been lost to 2 crags but didn’t tell you which ones they were? Who told you that?