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Knees, knees, knees.
February 26, 2020, 08:02:51 pm
Anyone got any experience with knee issues?

Never suffered with my knees before (Iím 51) but not enjoying this.

 I resumed yoga and climbing at the start of Feb after a 2 month layoff due to a hand injury. Initially my right inner knee felt a bit sore which I put down to having stiffened up a bit. Then my left patella was really painful going downstairs on Monday. By the end of that day I couldnít bend my knees or get up/downstairs without serious pain.

Bit better today, but still sore, hobbling and struggling on the stairs. Any bright ideas? Thanks!


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#1 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 26, 2020, 08:10:05 pm
Knees are very complex with every knee injury Iíve ever had giving me pain in a location different to where the issue was. Apparently the wiring of nerves in the knee is a bit screwed up. The only way to really know whatís wrong is to see a specialist. There are lots of manipulation tests to diagnose certain things that you could try (may need a friend).

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#2 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 26, 2020, 08:14:00 pm
Thanks Coops. The fact itís suddenly both knees, the jumping off problems and my age makes dread that it might be arthritis related. Did you suffer specific injuries?

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#3 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 26, 2020, 10:58:13 pm
Yeah I had a bucket handle tear of my meniscus 10 years ago and have since bruised the head of my femur due to missing the meniscus that was removed as a result of the tear. Ligaments all OK fortunately

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#4 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 26, 2020, 11:11:51 pm
Ouch! Glad it is working okay for you now.

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#5 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 27, 2020, 08:52:01 am
Knees are very complex with every knee injury Iíve ever had giving me pain in a location different to where the issue was.

This is true for most injuries, see my response to tomtom regarding his shoulder.

J, sounds like a sudden increase in activity after the prolonged inactivity provoked a bit of pain. Not wanting to sound blunt but this is pretty common verging on normal for people of our age. It's why I try to always be doing something even when I have tweaks (see my power club entries ad nauseum). It's the rate of increase of activity that's more an issue than the activity itself.

Almost every 50-something's knees will have signs of arthritis on X-Ray and those signs will have probably been there for years, pain or no pain. This doesn't mean something of major concern and exercise will almost certainly help.  First step (cough) is to allow things to settle for a couple of days then gradually introduce some knee strengthening work e.g. mini-squats or step-ups onto a small step.  If this isn't doing the job then seek more help.

 

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#6 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 27, 2020, 09:00:47 am
Purely anecdotal, but I've had much less knee issues since i started running. No idea if it's caused by improved muscle strength, strengthened soft tissue, or just continuous movement, or pure luck.

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#7 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 27, 2020, 02:14:46 pm
I've had a few knee injuries as of late.
Broken meniscus and broken cartilages (operated) and broken cruciatus ligament (not operated) in my left knee. Broken meniscus and broken cartilages (operated) and broken again meniscus (waiting for the operation) in my right knee.
Inner knee is often meniscus related, at least in my experience. Best thing is to have an MR scan; tests are fine but not 100% affordable: all ligament tests were negative for my left knee, and when the surgeon went in they found out that my cruciatus was completely disappeared. Like, not broken: shredded to thin filaments.
Now my left knee is kind of ok, let's hope my right one will heal properly also.

I have to say that also having both external ankle ligaments broken does not help knee health. A few weeks ago a simple farmer's walk with a heavier load fucked my knee properly for a good two weeks.
Despite this, yesterday I flashed 2xBW deadlift again after a lot of time without going heavy. Miracles.
Good luck!

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#8 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 27, 2020, 11:04:10 pm
Thanks all.

Hi Duncan and Chris, seems like good advice. Think I failed to take due account of what the aging process means for a return after injury.

Nibs, I have a Lee Majors bionic man rebuild type image in my head there, that sounds hideous  :o  Impressed (inspired?) your enthusiasm remains undiminished. Good luck with the right knee!

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#9 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 28, 2020, 09:10:39 am
From what Nibs is saying, looks like running is kinder to the knees than hard lifting!

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#10 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 28, 2020, 12:29:17 pm
At all. Heavy lifting has always been fine. Problems started with heavy bouldering.

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#11 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 29, 2020, 09:32:40 am
My dad (mid 60s) has started to suffer with arthritis in his knees. The doc has told him to go cycling 4 times a week and apparently it is helping a lot.

At 38 mine are already feeling a bit creaky and I had an op for a meniscus tear in my 20s, so Iím sure Iíve got similar issues to look forward to as part of the joy of ageing.

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#12 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 29, 2020, 10:09:27 am
My 60 plus year old knees have just started giving me a bit of grief. I think this is a result of no longer having a home board, so I have been jumping off a lot more at the wall and at the local quarry. However I think the main reason is I havenít been getting out on my bike due to the whether and my turbo trainer is in storage.
You need to build those quads up.

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#13 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 29, 2020, 10:13:09 am
My 60 plus year old knees have just started giving me a bit of grief. I think this is a result of no longer having a home board, so I have been jumping off a lot more at the wall and at the local quarry. However I think the main reason is I havenít been getting out on my bike due to the whether and my turbo trainer is in storage.
You need to build those quads up.

Been to the new wall in Ďull Webbo? Or are you out of the area now? (Iíve forgotten)

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#14 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
February 29, 2020, 10:31:58 am
I havenít been to the new wall in Dull as I have been in North Yorkshire for the last 2 and half years. However if things go as planned I will be moving back to near Beverley next week.
So I will probably using it till I get board back up.

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February 29, 2020, 07:13:17 pm
I havenít been to the new wall in Dull as I have been in North Yorkshire for the last 2 and half years. However if things go as planned I will be moving back to near Beverley next week.
So I will probably using it till I get board back up.

Itís really good. Owners are great and listen - nice bunch of punters too.

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#16 Re: Knees, knees, knees.
March 02, 2020, 08:42:22 am
Apart from one or two bad eggs I've heard..

 

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