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#2325 Re: Politics 2020
July 19, 2022, 06:12:58 pm
Advantage Truss?

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#2326 Re: Politics 2020
July 19, 2022, 10:58:12 pm
Advantage Truss?

Obviously,  the inevitable result is that the UK ends up with this f__wit Thatcher tribute act in charge.  After 3 years of the fourth rate Churchill tribute act has just ended. 

The sole benefit might be that she's more likely to lose an election than Sunak. 

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#2327 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 08:26:31 am
Advantage Truss?


The sole benefit might be that she's more likely to lose an election than Sunak.

Apart from Rio Ferdinand she's 110% the funniest character on Dead Ringers, though that's little consolation for the next 2 years.

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#2328 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 08:45:27 am
The Daily Mail  :sick: is backing Truss, my money is on her.  The Mail has huge influence over the 100k or so members that will be voting for the last 2, they will vote for Truss if she makes the last 2.  Stop the bus, I want to get off!  :'(

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#2329 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 08:52:59 am
The Daily Mail  :sick: is backing Truss, my money is on her.  The Mail has huge influence over the 100k or so members that will be voting for the last 2, they will vote for Truss if she makes the last 2.  Stop the bus, I want to get off!  :'(

I entirely agree with you.  If the home office are still offering up free flights to Rwanda I might volunteer to go and take my chances there. I'm not remotely enthusiastic about any of the potential PM candidates but she's the worst by some margin. 

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#2330 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 09:36:41 am
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I'm not remotely enthusiastic about any of the potential PM candidates but she's the worst by some margin.
It's horrifying.. She even dresses herself up in Thatcher copy outfits FFS! 

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#2331 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 11:17:35 am
Liz Truss as PM would be a uniquely depressing moment yes

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#2332 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 11:51:16 am
Liz Truss as PM would be a uniquely depressing moment yes

On the plus side, I think it would maximize the odds of the Tories losing the next election.

In the meantime, Penny Mordaunt thinks what the country really needs is a fucking theme song:

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1549681133104861185

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#2333 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 12:48:03 pm
Will this do?


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#2334 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 05:05:06 pm
Glad we can move on from the Johnson era and have a start fresh with... (checks notes) one of his most senior ministers.

 :slap:
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 05:11:27 pm by edshakey »

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#2335 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 05:48:47 pm
Sunak or Truss. It's like being asked if you want to be stabbed or beaten to death.

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#2336 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 05:55:02 pm
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I'm not remotely enthusiastic about any of the potential PM candidates but she's the worst by some margin.
It's horrifying.. She even dresses herself up in Thatcher copy outfits FFS!

From an egotistical liar, to an Instagram obsessed image slave with an equally thin grasp on any actual policy, and, worryingly, Truss thinks we're going to defeat Putin and push Russian forces out of Crimea. It's certainly optimistic, but betrays a really special lack of understanding of the situation, unless all the actual experts on it are wrong.

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#2337 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 05:56:20 pm
Sunak or Truss. It's like being asked if you want to be stabbed or beaten to death.

I'd go with Sunak every time, I'm not sure he's any good, but he's not mad.

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#2338 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 06:08:17 pm
Sunak or Truss. It's like being asked if you want to be stabbed or beaten to death.

I'd go with Sunak every time, I'm not sure he's any good, but he's not mad.
Sunak is the lesser of two horrific evils. Thank fcuk Penny Mordor isn't in the final two. Truss may well be thicker than pig shit, but Mordor is an ERG ultrabrexittier nutcase.

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#2339 Re: Politics 2020
July 20, 2022, 06:24:36 pm
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I'm not remotely enthusiastic about any of the potential PM candidates but she's the worst by some margin.
It's horrifying.. She even dresses herself up in Thatcher copy outfits FFS!

From an egotistical liar, to an Instagram obsessed image slave with an equally thin grasp on any actual policy, and, worryingly, Truss thinks we're going to defeat Putin and push Russian forces out of Crimea. It's certainly optimistic, but betrays a really special lack of understanding of the situation, unless all the actual experts on it are wrong.

It's less than 3 years since Truss said foreign policy was boring and that she couldn't understand why anyone would want to work in the Foreign Office.

If only cabinet positions were chosen based on expertise, knowledge and effectiveness, rather than slavish loyalty to, and a perceived low threat to, an egotistical liar.

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#2340 Re: Politics 2020
July 21, 2022, 08:36:36 am
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I'm not remotely enthusiastic about any of the potential PM candidates but she's the worst by some margin.
It's horrifying.. She even dresses herself up in Thatcher copy outfits FFS!

From an egotistical liar, to an Instagram obsessed image slave with an equally thin grasp on any actual policy, and, worryingly, Truss thinks we're going to defeat Putin and push Russian forces out of Crimea. It's certainly optimistic, but betrays a really special lack of understanding of the situation, unless all the actual experts on it are wrong.

It's less than 3 years since Truss said foreign policy was boring and that she couldn't understand why anyone would want to work in the Foreign Office.

If only cabinet positions were chosen based on expertise, knowledge and effectiveness, rather than slavish loyalty to, and a perceived low threat to, an egotistical liar.

Liz Truss argues passionately for remaining in the EU:
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/701028930183110656?s=20&t=iTxF6AscM5LrghUsINs9sg

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#2341 Re: Politics 2020
July 22, 2022, 02:19:01 pm
Out of the mouths of babes


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#2342 Re: Politics 2020
July 22, 2022, 05:23:03 pm
Liz Truss would (will?) be an appallingly bad PM, but let's face it the home counties 75 year old golf club members who are also members of the Conservative party probably think she'd be their dream bit of totty and they'll just vote for her.

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#2343 Re: Politics 2020
July 22, 2022, 05:45:52 pm
something something gammons, something something pork markets

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#2344 Re: Politics 2020
July 22, 2022, 10:22:49 pm
I notice that Truss has been saying today how disgraceful the delays at Dover are; either not realising or refusing to accept that the glorious Brexit that she's now such an enthusiast of might have the odd downside?


Incidentally,  this politico article is pretty amusing https://www.politico.eu/article/11-times-uk-tory-leadership-race-nuts-rishi-sunak-liz-truss/
« Last Edit: July 22, 2022, 10:29:37 pm by TobyD »

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#2345 Re: Politics 2020
July 23, 2022, 12:00:09 pm
Simon Calder this am on Dover delays...they were inevitable and stuff all to do with the French

https://twitter.com/i/status/1550762787982528512

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#2346 Re: Politics 2020
July 23, 2022, 12:17:11 pm
Simon Calder this am on Dover delays...they were inevitable and stuff all to do with the French

https://twitter.com/i/status/1550762787982528512

Come again?

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#2347 Re: Politics 2020
July 23, 2022, 01:15:01 pm
The British government rejected a £33m proposal to double passport booths at Dover in 2020

Quote from: Liz Truss
The foreign secretary called on France to act over “entirely avoidable” delays at the border, saying: “We need action from France to build up capacity at the border to limit any further disruption for British tourists and to ensure this appalling situation is avoided in future.”

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#2348 Re: Politics 2020
July 23, 2022, 03:16:01 pm
The entire establishment these days seems to be built on absolving oneself of any responsibility and putting that on the head of something else. Border issues? France. Energy prices? Ofgen. Cost of living? Bank of England. Rail disruption? Up to Network Rail.

It's government by excuses. They have no idea and no plan. There's nothing to it.

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#2349 Re: Politics 2020
July 23, 2022, 05:43:21 pm
The entire establishment these days seems to be built on absolving oneself of any responsibility and putting that on the head of something else. Border issues? France. Energy prices? Ofgen. Cost of living? Bank of England. Rail disruption? Up to Network Rail.

It's government by excuses. They have no idea and no plan. There's nothing to it.

Too true. There is a widespread reliance on arms length agencies to do things that the government ought to just be doing itself. They expect to make decisions and not take any flak if it goes wrong. You missed massive waiting lists blame the head of the NHS, not the health secretary; and if all else fails blame COVID, or Russia anyone but the f___ing incompetent government, and definitely not Brexit because there's no chance that's been a total disaster is there?

 

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