Whether it's the Iraq War, Student Fees, Austerity, or more recently BLM or Sarah Everard - the powers that be seem impervious to the need to recognise or react to strength of public opinion.
Quote from: tommytwotone on May 12, 2021, 06:42:50 pmWhether it's the Iraq War, Student Fees, Austerity, or more recently BLM or Sarah Everard - the powers that be seem impervious to the need to recognise or react to strength of public opinion.Things that lots of voters (if not lots of the public) think are good:High and increasing house prices.Policies that make life harder for welfare claimants. Leaving the European Union. Deficit reduction. I think the powers that be are quite well attuned to the opinion of large parts of the public...
And don't forget tougher sentences for crimes (despite the fact that our prison system is already bursting at the seams, isn't for for purpose and does more harm than good in the vast majority of cases).
The absolute hypocrisy of the government laying into the BBC for employing a journalist who obtained an interview on false pretences, when the prime minister was a journalist who was sacked from the Times for wait for it... making up a source for a story. Manufactured culture war bullshit, and Labour should be telling him that.
Quote from: TobyD on May 25, 2021, 09:01:05 amThe absolute hypocrisy of the government laying into the BBC for employing a journalist who obtained an interview on false pretences, when the prime minister was a journalist who was sacked from the Times for wait for it... making up a source for a story. Manufactured culture war bullshit, and Labour should be telling him that. Agree with almost everything you say around this sort of stuff, unfortunately unsure what the best approach against it is. This government does not even attempt to hide its approach / hypocrisy and is seemingly completely willing to pick up whatever culture war position it thinks can get it a few extra votes but I do worry that arguing against it passes by the majority of the electorate.I hate the nasty populist politics of the Johnson government, a position that is shared by many on here but how does the labour party best attack this without be viewed by a significant part of the electorate as the sort of 'woke' politics they don't like as against Johnson 'saying it like it is'?
No apology required, I share your pain!! It's good to be clear that the dislike of this government is shared by the centre left as much as the Corbyn wing of the labour party.
Quote from: IanP on May 25, 2021, 12:14:10 pmNo apology required, I share your pain!! It's good to be clear that the dislike of this government is shared by the centre left as much as the Corbyn wing of the labour party. Whilst we're on a ranty tip. This annoys the shit out of me. It's not the Corbyn wing of the party, it is the left wing of the party, the root of party and for that matter the core of activism within the party. The Corbyn (tm) brand has been successfully toxified to the extent that I feel the sense of hatred and bile when the name is mentioned. The left will be here forever, Corbyn is from it not the core of it...
Quote from: BrutusTheBear on May 25, 2021, 07:04:05 pmQuote from: IanP on May 25, 2021, 12:14:10 pmNo apology required, I share your pain!! It's good to be clear that the dislike of this government is shared by the centre left as much as the Corbyn wing of the labour party. Whilst we're on a ranty tip. This annoys the shit out of me. It's not the Corbyn wing of the party, it is the left wing of the party, the root of party and for that matter the core of activism within the party. The Corbyn (tm) brand has been successfully toxified to the extent that I feel the sense of hatred and bile when the name is mentioned. The left will be here forever, Corbyn is from it not the core of it...Fair enough maybe, but would you really have been much happier if I'd said the left wing of the labour party? Left wing or left of centre, isn't the fight against a horrible right wing populist government more important? Why pick on this rather than considering what you might share with Toby (and me) in your antipathy to the current government
.....It would appear they don't wish to do or say anything that could be associated with Corbyn name, that they are seeking the backing of the MSM which won't be forthcoming. And the further we slide...
Whatever you think of Cummings it is bizarre to see that there has been such a void of leadership or responsibility in the government that again Cummings is being given his own platform (again) to show case all the shortcomings and failings.