He thought it looked like it had slipped downhill. Freeze thaw action perhaps?
Quote from: r-man on December 02, 2019, 12:50:20 pm He thought it looked like it had slipped downhill. Freeze thaw action perhaps?Waterlogged ground would be a more likely explanation I think.
Just spoke to him and he actually said it's been moved, so maybe it could be put back in theory?In all honesty, as shocking as it is, I almost see it as a positive thing? Most ascents of The Joker these days are stand on bloc, swing in, swing out to the top. It's barely even a climb anymore...When The Ace is very logical to start at and is a full climb, without room for "cheating"...
Many moons ago, during a night session, a group of now wads had this boulder on its teetering point, declaring the Ace was the superior problem and the Joker should be no more...
Quote from: Paul B on December 02, 2019, 03:03:56 pmMany moons ago, during a night session, a group of now wads had this boulder on its teetering point, declaring the Ace was the superior problem and the Joker should be no more... Should be easy enough to see if it has slid as you'd expect if due to wet ground, or been flipped as would most likely be the case if moved by hand. Is it upside down or not?
Quote from: Orrincoley on December 02, 2019, 12:39:38 pmJust spoke to him and he actually said it's been moved, so maybe it could be put back in theory?In all honesty, as shocking as it is, I almost see it as a positive thing? Most ascents of The Joker these days are stand on bloc, swing in, swing out to the top. It's barely even a climb anymore...When The Ace is very logical to start at and is a full climb, without room for "cheating"...Hmmmm, sounds like a somewhat privileged position only someone strong enough to do the Ace could take
Been up today. There's absolutely no way this moved naturally. The good news it looks like it won't be too hard to put back. Then Dense won't have to break anyone's legs.
Deffo put this back if possible - classic Jerry problem.
Quote from: Footwork on December 02, 2019, 08:16:31 pmDeffo put this back if possible - classic Jerry problem.Thinking about it, I'm actually quite happy it's gone. Just leave it as it is.
Why is Ben bothered? He'd just stack the pads anyway?
Quote from: Will Hunt on December 02, 2019, 08:49:32 pmWhy is Ben bothered? He'd just stack the pads anyway?Stacking pads seems like a better option anyway, removes the arbitrary height restriction of the old start!
2 classics destroyed in 1 weekend. I've been getting reports that the pinch after the crimp you jump to on voyager has crumbled away.