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#625 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 09:49:34 am
We'll see. Currently I have my head happily buried in my echo chamber of anti-Tory family, friends and acquaintances and can therefore see nothing but Conservative oblivion and a glorious progressive alliance of remain  :)

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#626 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 09:56:42 am
I know there is resistance to the notion of BBC bias, as an institution, amongst UKB posters, but...

Can we agree that one of their loudest voices, is, actually, pretty bloody partisan?

Criminal?

No... she's a reporter and it seems to me she's reported a piece of information she's been given and presumably therefore believes to be accurate. It doesn't sound like something she's made up to me. That's not partisan at all.

Was doing so illegal? Possibly. But that doesn't make it partisan.

I firmly and strongly disagree, she is highly experienced and fully aware of both the implication of her report (in terms of influence of the vote) and of the legality of the report and of why such reporting is banned.
Or are we pretending she’s a rookie, who has not already been disciplined for making partisan reports and is frequently, and unarguably, very close to being partisan, whilst managing to flutter around without actually doing so, with rather a complex verbal Ballet.

So, when she makes such a blatant statement, at such a crucial moment, I refuse to give her the benefit of the doubt...

But, hey, I could probably write an equally strident defence of her and journalistic freedom. After all, I’m not suggesting she’s the slightest bit stupid.

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#627 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 12:57:05 pm
Anyone care to stick their neck out with a prediction then?

I'm enjoying the sense of denial before finding out that the Tories have taken 350-360 seats.

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#628 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 01:16:29 pm
You haven't been reading Toby's posts then?  :lol:

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#629 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 01:29:30 pm
sense of denial

Very much my mindset atm haha

Hung parliament though, Tory's on 305-310 or so, Labour on 240-250, Lib Dems on 30, SNP on 35-40.

I firmly and strongly disagree

Fair enough. I think you're overestimating her level of influence though.

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#630 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 01:58:30 pm
The optimistic part of me hopes the reports of high turnouts and the prominent promotion of tactical voting mean that there will be a hung parliament.

The pessimistic part dreads waking up in the morning.

Most hoped for result? Boris losing Uxbridge & Ruislip by one vote as he didn't vote in his constituency.

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#631 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 02:32:40 pm
I vote in the morning, with the Bunker not opening until 12.
They shifted our polling station to a larger venue, because they were expecting a larger than normal turnout. I don’t know why they expect that, we’ll see. I have that paranoid suspicion, that it’s an attempt to hide the polling station from the inattentive...
(I’m kidding).
Lots of protests on social media about postal votes not turning up, for some of the rural voters in the ward.
Polling was quiet when I went in at 10:30. All elderly. 49 year old me was probably at least 15 years younger than the next voter...

Prediction:

Tory majority. Not as big as they thought they’d get, but enough.

I think, five years from now, things will be very different. Just on the demographics alone.
I also think the NHS crisis, Climate, poverty, economic hardship issues will be frank and beyond spin, five years from now and it will be a very different picture.

Or, the next Tory government will bring prosperity and massive economic growth, smash crime into distant memory, end racism and make us a world dominating force to  beat all others.

Also, the Tooth fairy, shall be bringing gold sovereigns, wrapped in £50 notes...


Quote from a friend’s post:

“Oh the weather outside is frightful
But the Tories are still just spiteful
And since we’ve no other hope
Go and vote, go and vote, go and vote”

« Last Edit: December 12, 2019, 02:39:53 pm by Oldmanmatt »

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#632 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 02:50:48 pm
As the wise man Wayne Campbell said "yeah and monkeys might fly out of my butt"

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#633 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 08:38:07 pm
Everyone/anyone staying up? I guess so, though I doubt I will be.

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#634 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 08:47:45 pm
Everyone/anyone staying up? I guess so, though I doubt I will be.

Yeah. I’ll stay up for the exit poll at 10. If it’s <10 Tory Majority I’ll stay up and see what happens.

If it’s more than 10 I’ll shout fuck off a few times and go to bed chuntering.

Lots of reports of very long ques at polling stations this evening. Which bodes well for the labour vote I think... that’s me clutching at straws though.

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#635 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 08:47:55 pm
I thought about it, but, ultimately, what’s the point?

This is the ultimate pessimist’s dream scenario.
Tomorrow I shall either wake up to a pleasant surprise or I shall have the smug satisfaction of correctly predicting doom upon the land.

Win win, basically.




Actually, it’s pretty shit and I can’t be bothered. I voted LD.

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#636 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 08:51:24 pm
From the Indy “
But if the exit poll predicts a Conservative majority of 30 or more, the final result is very unlikely to be a hung parliament. Anything short of that means that we cannot be sure of the outcome, and will have to stay up all night to find out.”

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#637 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 09:06:18 pm
I will be up for a fair bit. I always do, best thing on telly every time.

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#638 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 09:15:37 pm
I'm a bit tired and a bit screwed by being an hour ahead but have to make it through the next 45 minutes at least.

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#639 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 09:20:59 pm
From the Indy “
But if the exit poll predicts a Conservative majority of 30 or more, the final result is very unlikely to be a hung parliament. Anything short of that means that we cannot be sure of the outcome, and will have to stay up all night to find out go to bed and work it all out in the morning.”

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#640 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:02:57 pm
Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Huge Tory majority forecast.

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#641 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:03:38 pm
Exit poll 368 Tories, 191 Labour, SNP 55!

Deep shit

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#642 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:04:54 pm
Wow.

I am not a Corbyn fan but had no idea that would happen.

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#643 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:05:15 pm
Well, that’s shit.

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#644 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:17:27 pm
I guess the Conservatives got their message through to the majority of people who don’t follow politics. I also think that unfortunately Corbyn is pretty toxic to large numbers of people. Actual policies seem to have little impact on how people vote...

Christ if those numbers are correct there must be seats swinging to the Tories that have always been Labour!!

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#645 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:24:53 pm
Normally I love to smugly tell people that I told them so. Now I'm just going to tell them that I told them so.

Make no mistake. Momentum and Corbyn have led us to this and it's time for them to fuck off.

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#646 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:35:20 pm
Et tu Brutus?

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#647 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:37:27 pm
Well that’s Brexit for certain then.

😢

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#648 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:37:39 pm
I hope I'm wrong but I can't see Labour doing well at all,  as the referendum proves,  3 word slogans work.  Labour's is more than 5, and I feel that many people will have stopped listening by then.

Hmmm....

Only a year to wait until a no deal brexit now, along with some regressive crime and punishment legislation.

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#649 Re: 2019 December General Election
December 12, 2019, 10:40:55 pm
I guess the Conservatives got their message through to the majority of people who don’t follow politics. I also think that unfortunately Corbyn is pretty toxic to large numbers of people.

These two things are exactly the same thing.

 

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