I've seen a few times on various Facebook groups a kind of "freemen of the land" type justification along the lines of "if it's off the road it's OK", "If you pay your tax you can park anywhere if there are no lines", "The council/ Park only ticket to make money" etc. All seem to rely on the fantasy that even if you do something that's a total fucking nuisance to people then no-one, not even the law, can do anything about it due to loopholes, along the same lines as the "if the last two 9s of the price on the windscreen of a used car blow off they have to sell it you for £59" fallacy. The world doesn't work like that and faced with a situation where residents are complaining that they can barely get down their road due to the clusterfuck in the pictures Shark's posted above we will not come out of it well- the reasonable solution would be to create local parking- that parking already exists and if we don't use it then there's only one way that any dispute can go- badly for us.
I found myself immensely frustrated by this type of response (almost word for word) when Kilnsey parking was being discussed on the Yorks facebook group a few years back. Fortunately sanity prevailed and good parking practice is being followed (touch wood), but its amazing the lengths people will go to defend their 'right' to a 30 second walk in!
I've seen a few times on various Facebook groups a kind of "freemen of the land" type justification along the lines of "if it's off the road it's OK", "If you pay your tax you can park anywhere if there are no lines", "The council/ Park only ticket to make money" etc. All seem to rely on the fantasy that even if you do something that's a total fucking nuisance to people then no-one, not even the law, can do anything about it due to loopholes, along the same lines as the "if the last two 9s of the price on the windscreen of a used car blow off they have to sell it you for £59" fallacy.
Indeed. I seem to remember that Boggy said he could park where he liked because he'd driven there from work. As if everyone else who goes in the evenings hasn't been at work.
Who the fuck is Boggy?
My favourite bit of what I call "pub law" is this (sounds best if you say it in the voice of a gammon-faced cabbie from Essex):"If you are driving and you are drunk, if you crash your car then bladdy well make sure you get all four wheels off the facking tarmac. When the filth arrive they can breathalise you but they cannot facking touch you. If your car is not on the Queen's Highway then they cannot facking touch you."It's the Queen's Highway bit that gets me. Because they've given the road some special pseudo-legal term then it lends a perverse air of legitimacy to whatever shite they're saying.
I don’t think anyone would have been prosecuted under anything, it was just the idea that any kind of comeback to climbers from behaving like twats near locals residences could be neutralised by a weird loophole.
Sorry to interrupt this thread of GloBal and InternaTional significanCe. However UFCK has a New SpeciaL edition Out. And as The entiRe fucking ClimBing populatioN Of Sheffield appears To be parked up at Raven toR to climb a Font 7b roof and GET the grade 7c+, we at UFCK thought it would be a good place to share a ‘happening’ with UKb’s very own Doylo99. https://thelifetimeesotericticklist.wordpress.com/2019/05/09/dudno-life-aka-mental-caverns-without-sunshine/By the way if anyone thinks this BloG is on the unusual side, please refer to SHarks Photos above. They must have been HandinG out 20’s aT the crag for Christ’s SaKe
For some reason it reminded me of Barrow's "The 20 most pressing questions in British climbing" (which, in case he sees this, is due another edition ).
Quote from: 36chambers on May 10, 2019, 08:51:26 amFor some reason it reminded me of Barrow's "The 20 most pressing questions in British climbing" (which, in case he sees this, is due another edition ). I'd love to, I even had about 15 new ones ready a couple of years back... then I went for a job interview where they mentioned they'd looked at my blog (fortunately not those posts!) and I realised there were potential repercussions to posting lists of abusive questions with my name attached.... maybe I need to find a way to do version 3 "anonymously"...
Very interesting how busy the Tor was on that weeknight, having somewhat of a late bloom. Can't believe how many people must be there with all those cars, the other bits of lay-by being chocker. Unexpected consequence of the proliferation of indoor walls? Stanage quiet, Tor stacked to the rafters.