I rented the big Organic when I was in Albarracin a few months ago and was so impressed I am going to stump up for one. Has anyone got any experience with the back country version? Looks like it is essentially the same but with a padded hip belt (which can be bought as an add-on for the normal pad?) and some more padded and removable shoulder straps. Can't tell if this is a good feature or would be annoying in the long run. Can anyone offer any insight?
Quote from: chrisbrooke on November 30, 2022, 02:52:42 pmSurely that's a mistake on the website?!? Last time I looked at those they were less than £300 (if I remember correctly) and a solid budget option for those who could overlook how awkward they were to carry and some strap/carry system issues.These were 280 not that long ago I thought to! Was considering it as a future replacement for an organic given the increases in prices
Surely that's a mistake on the website?!? Last time I looked at those they were less than £300 (if I remember correctly) and a solid budget option for those who could overlook how awkward they were to carry and some strap/carry system issues.
Quote from: Andy W on August 06, 2018, 06:28:10 pmdoes the taco form, mean a bigger load (i.e. more than one pad) becomes a bit unstable, essentially the surface against your back isn't quite flat or the load distributed so well?Not in my experience. I regularly carry a Moon Warrior, Grivel and Organic Blubber all strapped to my Saturn (which is usually stuffed with camera, tripod, kit, etc.) and it feels perfectly balanced/weighted. I can't exactly carry it very far but that's my own limitation not the pad
does the taco form, mean a bigger load (i.e. more than one pad) becomes a bit unstable, essentially the surface against your back isn't quite flat or the load distributed so well?
There is a single foam sheet on top of the organic so afraid its also best to store unfolded.
Yeah I think all pads are best stored unfolded if space allows.
Side note, surely there's an emerging market for someone to setup a foam replacement service? I imagine much of the cost of new products is labour (plus wholesale/retail margins). I can't believe that mostly air is *that* expensive. Must be lots of pads out there past their shock absorbing best but with covers and straps in ok condition? I got lucky with some offcuts from a wall refurb but I've had another 2 years from a past it pad for the cost a few quid to MR. Entrepreneur anyone?Small stock area, cutting facility, bit of expertise on densities for different pads. Shipping is always going to be a nuisance granted.
I'm also considering a Moon Saturn or one of the large Organic pads - key question for me is how easy it is to carry a bouldering bag within the pad. This currently works fine with my Moon Warrior (so assume the taco-style Saturn will be similar). Does anybody have any feedback as to how easy (or otherwise) it is to carry a bouldering bag within one of the larger split style mats such as the Organic big pad? I don't really want to have to carry a mat on my back and a bag over my shoulder as this seems to twist my back on long walk ins
Thanks James - but aaargh - more choice!
Quote from: 36chambers on August 05, 2018, 07:31:06 pmQuote from: tomtom on August 05, 2018, 04:56:18 pmQuote from: teestub on August 05, 2018, 03:46:37 pmSnap fans: have they sorted out a decent carry system now? Last one I used only had shoulder straps which were lob sided and no waist or chest strap which meant you couldn’t really load it up for long walk ins.Yes.I'm honestly not on a mission to slag off all other pad companies, however my friend has the biggest snap pad and the straps are attached as low as possible, therefore half the pad is above shoulder height which makes it particularly top heavy when carrying it, especially if you're shoving things in it too. I just thought it was a very poor design choice. I am that friend (I think) and if I had the chance again, I’d get the organic big over the snap (don’t tell 36C...). The cover of my snap is currently off getting fixed as the strap has snapped and various stitchings have come undone, all in less than 6 months... I’ve also had a Saturn before but the foam didn’t last as long as I’d hoped - stored as per instructions...Get the Organic
Quote from: tomtom on August 05, 2018, 04:56:18 pmQuote from: teestub on August 05, 2018, 03:46:37 pmSnap fans: have they sorted out a decent carry system now? Last one I used only had shoulder straps which were lob sided and no waist or chest strap which meant you couldn’t really load it up for long walk ins.Yes.I'm honestly not on a mission to slag off all other pad companies, however my friend has the biggest snap pad and the straps are attached as low as possible, therefore half the pad is above shoulder height which makes it particularly top heavy when carrying it, especially if you're shoving things in it too. I just thought it was a very poor design choice.
Quote from: teestub on August 05, 2018, 03:46:37 pmSnap fans: have they sorted out a decent carry system now? Last one I used only had shoulder straps which were lob sided and no waist or chest strap which meant you couldn’t really load it up for long walk ins.Yes.
Snap fans: have they sorted out a decent carry system now? Last one I used only had shoulder straps which were lob sided and no waist or chest strap which meant you couldn’t really load it up for long walk ins.
Or maybe I’ve just got my straps setup badly