abarro81 said:I look forward to Offwidth coming along and assuring us he's a great bloke and nothing was his fault and it's all basically fine...
abarro81 said:I look forward to Offwidth coming along and assuring us he's a great bloke and nothing was his fault and it's all basically fine...
shark said:He has played fast and loose with Board nominations at the last AGM trying to bypass the Articles to install new Directors he liked yet I was held rigidly to the Articles for the AGM resolutions.
Tony said:I further second galpinos comments and would add, unless one has formally submitted one’s candidacy to volunteer one’s time to act in these roles (acting in good faith, to propose solutions, do the work, and not simply to moan or disrupt) then maybe one might wish to consider the depth of one’s convictions.
It’s easy to criticise from an armchair.
Oldmanmatt said:Tony said:I further second galpinos comments and would add, unless one has formally submitted one’s candidacy to volunteer one’s time to act in these roles (acting in good faith, to propose solutions, do the work, and not simply to moan or disrupt) then maybe one might wish to consider the depth of one’s convictions.
It’s easy to criticise from an armchair.
So…
Members of a membership organisation, who have not actually sat on or volunteered/applied for board or national committee roles should not criticise those who have?
Gotcha, understood.
Seems legit.
As an aside, Offwidth takes too much flack for someone who seems to be honest and dedicated. We all benefit from his like and their passion for the organisation. I apologise for my part in that.
Oldmanmatt said:So…
Members of a membership organisation, who have not actually sat on or volunteered/applied for board or national committee roles should not criticise those who have?
Gotcha, understood.
Seems legit
Sam R said:Oldmanmatt said:So…
Members of a membership organisation, who have not actually sat on or volunteered/applied for board or national committee roles should not criticise those who have?
Gotcha, understood.
Seems legit
That is very clearly not what Tony wrote.
The issue he raised was that repeated carping at an individual who has spent a huge amount of volunteered time on this, is perhaps not fuelled by a particularly sincerely held set of beliefs.
I think you forgot, “… to me.” Perhaps your stated reading of my comments say more about your own beliefs?Oldmanmatt said:Really?
That’s not how it reads.
Except that’s not actually what I wrote at all.Oldmanmatt said:Tony discredited any dissent or criticism by anybody not within the categories he stipulated.
That seems rather ad hominem…Oldmanmatt said:based on prior Tony posting
Tony said:I think you forgot, “… to me.” Perhaps your stated reading of my comments say more about your own beliefs?Oldmanmatt said:Really?
That’s not how it reads.
Except that’s not actually what I wrote at all.Oldmanmatt said:Tony discredited any dissent or criticism by anybody not within the categories he stipulated.
That seems rather ad hominem…Oldmanmatt said:based on prior Tony posting
I really don’t know why you, OldMan, chose to insinuate that I have an agenda against any individual. I really don’t. Life’s too short.
shark said:You’re missing the point Galpinos. They need the cash in the bank because there isn’t a sufficient reserve.