Simon Lee
insect overlord #1
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To date the proposed resolutions linked above to disclose financial information has received the support of 261 members and the resolution to establish GB Climbing as an independent subsidiary has received the support of 221 members.
Thank you everyone who has signed so far. Whilst there is still some way to go it will only take each signatory to persuade one other BMC member to sign up for us to easily clear the 0.5% threshold which is likely to be in the region of ~350 members (exact number to be confirmed).
If successful the resolutions will then be included on the AGM agenda with all members given the opportunity to vote on them.
Aside from the number of signatories still required there are a couple of other stumbling blocks that have emerged that I want to make folk aware of (nothing ever seems to be straightforward with the BMC).
*Governance wonkery alert*
Firstly, there is a process that has been created in the last couple of years for member resolutions that I wasn’t aware of that was recently flagged up to me by one of the Directors on BMC Watch.
This process requires a member resolution to be agreed with the Company Secretary and a web form is then created on the BMC website that members need to sign into to support the resolution. I don’t know how involved this web form registration process will be but I think it likely to be far less straightforward than registering on Change.Org
There are a few things I’d like to say about this web form process. First of all I set up the petition on Change.Org in good faith and those who have supported the resolutions so far have also signed in good faith and this web form process is not common knowledge (to say the least). In fact it has not ever been enacted to date because no member resolutions have been raised since its inception. To require those who have signed up to then have to re-sign would be a needless and irritating duplication.
Consequently I have made the case that the members who have signed on Change.Org can be verified on the Membership database by name and postcode downloaded on a spreadsheet provided by Change.Org. I know for a fact this possible and furthermore this process of verification is for example more verifiable by the BMC to undertake than the physical signatures route which is also allowable in the articles.
I also worry that the BMC route would be clunkier requiring passwords and membership numbers which will make it even more difficult to reach the required numbers especially given the context that ~350 members is a high number when typically, AGM voting participants often number lower than 1000 members.
Finally, it generally seems wrong to me that a member led resolution is administratively taken out of the hands of those proposing the resolution and put in the hands of the BMC office.
I have made these points to the Company Secretary who kindly met me, and he will come back with a decision on whether this internal process must be followed or not.
The second issue was that I have recently explored is whether to concurrently escalate the resolutions through Members Council (whilst still gathering signatures on Change.Org).
Members Council just require 25 signatures on a proposed resolution to discuss it and potentially vote it through directly onto the AGM. However, a potential fly in the ointment is sub clause 11.8.2b which is less than clear on whether a resolution rejected by the Council then voids a Members Resolution that subsequently gains the requisite number of supporters.
Jonathan White a former Director who has recently carried out a Governance review believes it doesn’t but Andy Syme President who has been heavily involved with the creation of the current Articles believes it does. Again, I am awaiting a definitive response on this.
If Andy’s interpretation is deemed correct, he has offered that if the resolutions don’t get the required level of support by the cut off date (27th April) then the Resolutions can then be put to the vote by Members Council on the 28th April.
Irrespective I hope that the content of the resolutions are discussed at the next Members Council meeting on the basis of the level of support so far means it deserves to be. This can be facilitated by discussing the resolutions at the upcoming round of Area Meetings with your local area representatives to then escalate to Members Council. I will be doing my bit presenting at the next Peak Area meeting on the 8th of March.
Link to BMC Articles:
https://www.thebmc.co.uk/Handlers/DownloadHandler.ashx?id=2145
To date the proposed resolutions linked above to disclose financial information has received the support of 261 members and the resolution to establish GB Climbing as an independent subsidiary has received the support of 221 members.
Thank you everyone who has signed so far. Whilst there is still some way to go it will only take each signatory to persuade one other BMC member to sign up for us to easily clear the 0.5% threshold which is likely to be in the region of ~350 members (exact number to be confirmed).
If successful the resolutions will then be included on the AGM agenda with all members given the opportunity to vote on them.
Aside from the number of signatories still required there are a couple of other stumbling blocks that have emerged that I want to make folk aware of (nothing ever seems to be straightforward with the BMC).
*Governance wonkery alert*
Firstly, there is a process that has been created in the last couple of years for member resolutions that I wasn’t aware of that was recently flagged up to me by one of the Directors on BMC Watch.
This process requires a member resolution to be agreed with the Company Secretary and a web form is then created on the BMC website that members need to sign into to support the resolution. I don’t know how involved this web form registration process will be but I think it likely to be far less straightforward than registering on Change.Org
There are a few things I’d like to say about this web form process. First of all I set up the petition on Change.Org in good faith and those who have supported the resolutions so far have also signed in good faith and this web form process is not common knowledge (to say the least). In fact it has not ever been enacted to date because no member resolutions have been raised since its inception. To require those who have signed up to then have to re-sign would be a needless and irritating duplication.
Consequently I have made the case that the members who have signed on Change.Org can be verified on the Membership database by name and postcode downloaded on a spreadsheet provided by Change.Org. I know for a fact this possible and furthermore this process of verification is for example more verifiable by the BMC to undertake than the physical signatures route which is also allowable in the articles.
I also worry that the BMC route would be clunkier requiring passwords and membership numbers which will make it even more difficult to reach the required numbers especially given the context that ~350 members is a high number when typically, AGM voting participants often number lower than 1000 members.
Finally, it generally seems wrong to me that a member led resolution is administratively taken out of the hands of those proposing the resolution and put in the hands of the BMC office.
I have made these points to the Company Secretary who kindly met me, and he will come back with a decision on whether this internal process must be followed or not.
The second issue was that I have recently explored is whether to concurrently escalate the resolutions through Members Council (whilst still gathering signatures on Change.Org).
Members Council just require 25 signatures on a proposed resolution to discuss it and potentially vote it through directly onto the AGM. However, a potential fly in the ointment is sub clause 11.8.2b which is less than clear on whether a resolution rejected by the Council then voids a Members Resolution that subsequently gains the requisite number of supporters.
Jonathan White a former Director who has recently carried out a Governance review believes it doesn’t but Andy Syme President who has been heavily involved with the creation of the current Articles believes it does. Again, I am awaiting a definitive response on this.
If Andy’s interpretation is deemed correct, he has offered that if the resolutions don’t get the required level of support by the cut off date (27th April) then the Resolutions can then be put to the vote by Members Council on the 28th April.
Irrespective I hope that the content of the resolutions are discussed at the next Members Council meeting on the basis of the level of support so far means it deserves to be. This can be facilitated by discussing the resolutions at the upcoming round of Area Meetings with your local area representatives to then escalate to Members Council. I will be doing my bit presenting at the next Peak Area meeting on the 8th of March.
Link to BMC Articles:
https://www.thebmc.co.uk/Handlers/DownloadHandler.ashx?id=2145