[the_dom]

don't know if anyone else's heckles get raised by this, but having read a fair bit of planetfear / ukclimbing /cragx written content, the one thing that continually shocks me is the standard of the editing - their/they're/there errors, shocking punctuation and even some pretty elementary typos.

I acknowledge that on a forum there's always going to be a more relaxed written style, but a website wants to make its content look and feel like mag quality it's got to be edited properly.

Here endeth my pedantic rant...

I agree. It's fucking annoying. It's not pedantic to expect people to take some care in their work.

[dave]

yeah i'm feeling that. the amount of stuff you see thats obviously not even been spellchecked. One of my favourite one are the programmes for Steelers matches - we try and see what the first spelling or gramatical error we can find, its generaly on the first page. full articles with sentences that don't make sense, mixed metaphors, bad apostrope's etc. hilarious but also ridiculous, since just pressing F7 before publishing anything would get rid of half of it.

also, why do the mags always publish photos back to front? and stuff like the well known E9 appointment wid death at widdop. :roll:

[Bonjoy]

Apparently the high variation on Jerry's trav is called 'Rose and the unemployed business man' according to high. :roll:

[Bubba]

Apparently the high variation on Jerry's trav is called 'Rose and the unemployed business man' according to high. :roll:

I thought it was  :?

[Bubba]

Damn - my memory is failing me - is it Self Employed or Unemployed? I'm  sure I watched the first ascent so I should fucking know.

Oh god, senility is cruel  :?

[Bonjoy]

Self-employed unless i've been misled by Rockfiction or am going senile again.

[Johnny Brown]

Surely between you and fatboy slimfast you should be able to tell us not only who the self-employed businessman was, what trade he was in, but Rose's phone number and current squeeze too...

[Bubba]

Self-employed sounds more plausible - I'm just trying to remember exactly what the name referred do - fatboy will know. Mind you, his brain is probably past it's best too  

[tommytwotone]

on the editing tip, I'd be more than happy to cast my eye over any content for the site. I am getting a reputation as 'punctuation stickler' at work, and got bought this recently:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861976127/qid%3D1094721325/202-0836698-1443061

[Bubba]

Eventually, I'll be able to set up a workflow system for content, eg:

- designer/admin creates page template
- user a creates site content into template
- user b approves content to be finalised
- user c proof-reads content
- user b approves content and it goes live

This is all handled by the system, each user just sees a queue of tasks waiting for them. so, yeah, a proof-reader is a great idea  :D

[David S]

also, why do the mags always publish photos back to front? and stuff like the well known E9 appointment wid death at widdop. :roll:

Don't get ya, did someone print it back (Appoint WD) to front and if so where?

[dave]

no, they are seperate points.

Point A = mags always publish photos back to front
Point B = obvious mistakes, like stuff like the well known E9 appointment wid death at widdop.

[Bonjoy]

The name is a take on the Buoux route Le Rose et la Vampire (excuse my french), due to both having a big crossover move I presume. The likening of a self-employed business man and a vampire might be some reference to some carryon related to a rope access firm run by DT at the time, but that's just a half-educated guess.

[grimer]

I think the Self-emplyed business man referred to the Enterprise Allowance Scheme which all the climbers were on at the time, usually as self emplyed climbing journalists. This gave you more cash than the dole and you never had to sign on.

[Bubba]

Yeah, the Rose thing is correct, but can't remember if the DT reference is what it was about or not  :roll:

[tc]

If we are going to get pedantic, it's "hackles", not "heckles"  :wink:

[dave]

"Feckles, heckles, hackles, schmeckles "

[tommytwotone]

and in the interests of unselfishness:

tommytwotone wrote:
don't know if anyone else's heckles get raised by this, but having read a fair bit of planetfear / ukclimbing /cragx written content, the one thing that continually shocks me is the standard of the editing - their/they're/there errors, shocking punctuation and even some pretty elementary typos.

I acknowledge that on a forum there's always going to be a more relaxed written style, but a website wants to make its content look and feel like mag quality it's got to be edited properly.

Here endeth my pedantic rant...

that second paragraph should read:

I acknowledge that on a forum there's always going to be a more relaxed written style, but if a website wants to make its content look and feel like mag quality it's got to be edited properly.

see - nobody's perfect... :wink:

on a totally different note, i noticed that one of the newsagents in Derby files OTE / Climber / High on the top shelf along with the jazz mags. I haven't actually read any of the climbing mags in a while, are they getting that desperate for readers?

[dave]

well there are certian similarities. For example i'd certianly be embarrased going into a shop to buy Climber.

were they in plastic sleeves cobscuring the front covers?

[account_inactive]

Though having a tommy tank over Dave Pickford would be a serious offence

[dave]

i recon theres only one person who jerks over pictures of dave pickford, and thats the man himself.

 :saythat:

[tommytwotone]

are we back to Bubba's thing about reading it in the bog (where the light's better) again?

[MrBlue]

Eventually, I'll be able to set up a workflow system for content, eg:

- designer/admin creates page template
- user a creates site content into template
- user b approves content to be finalised
- user c proof-reads content
- user b approves content and it goes live

ah, so me sending shit in in pdf format probably won't be too helpful then  

[Bubba]

The new site will have an automatic conversion utility which can convert any page you're on into a pdf.

That said it's a bit flakey at the moment so pdf copies of articles aren't a bad idea....

You been doing some writing?

[MrBlue]

You been doing some writing?

apart from that first article i sent you, haven't really done much. got something in the pipeline but it's tricky trying to fit it in amongst all the other stuff i'm doing at the mo - trying to find a new job, sort out a flat, set up payments etc...doesn't leave much time!