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#125 Re: IFSC 2017
April 13, 2017, 09:49:05 pm
I reckon they should have a 5 minute limit but you need to have pulled on for your last attempt by the end of the 4th minute, if that makes sense.

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#126 Re: IFSC 2017
April 13, 2017, 09:51:39 pm
Just out of idle curiosity, why is it that having to pay to watch the comp has made people so cross? I understand that FloSports pricing is particularly prohibitive and that their service is purportedly crap, but people seemed to get incensed by the very principle of there being any charge at all.

It's a given in many other sports that the footage must be paid for, often through a special subscription service. Why should climbing be any different?

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#127 Re: IFSC 2017
April 13, 2017, 10:12:42 pm
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Just out of idle curiosity, why is it that having to pay to watch the comp has made people so cross? I understand that FloSports pricing is particularly prohibitive and that their service is purportedly crap, but people seemed to get incensed by the very principle of there being any charge at all.

It's a given in many other sports that the footage must be paid for, often through a special subscription service. Why should climbing be any different?

It was too expensive

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#128 Re: IFSC 2017
April 13, 2017, 10:31:06 pm
I don't get that impression. Reading the comments it looked to me like there were a great many people who thought that having to pay any sum at all constituted a breach of their basic, inalienable human rights.

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#129 Re: IFSC 2017
April 14, 2017, 05:47:44 am
I see what you mean, and I - as somebody who is already a climber and already a fan of competition bouldering - would have no problem with reasonably priced pay per view. There's no way I'm taking out an overpriced subscription to a company with a dire reputation, but that's a separate issue.

Some people just don't want to pay for anything, but the more convincing argument that I see is that as of now there is only a tiny, tiny number of people like me or you who might already be willing to pay, and putting it behind a paywall early on basically removes all possibility of that number ever increasing.

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#130 Re: IFSC 2017
April 14, 2017, 09:13:12 am
I don't get that impression. Reading the comments it looked to me like there were a great many people who thought that having to pay any sum at all constituted a breach of their basic, inalienable human rights.
The IFSC should really be at the pinnacle of the sport. That should be all encompassing the best climbers, setting, presentation if the stream is to carry a fee.
If you consider the stream from the last round, I was expecting lots of bells and whistles as they attempted to charge to watch, but it was identical to last years, poor commentary, camera angles, direction etc. If you compare it to this years CWIFF stream which I thought was excellent and free, there is no comparison.
I wouldn't mind paying either a couple of quid per event or say a tenner for the season (max)but they first need to address the issues about the stream. If it was good enough people would be willing part with some cash.

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#131 Re: IFSC 2017
April 14, 2017, 09:35:47 am
I reckon they should have a 5 minute limit but you need to have pulled on for your last attempt by the end of the 4th minute, if that makes sense.

I had not heard Flo Sports name mentioned when the 4/4+ rule was discussed

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#132 Re: IFSC 2017
April 14, 2017, 09:45:51 am
WSL provide a high quality Live Stream of surfing events from around the world that can happen on any day within a given waiting period for FREE.

In my opinion this a brilliant thing and something IFSC should aspire to do because it is a more inclusive approach.  The model is there to follow and with climbing events the infrastructure required is much less complicated. 

Nothing to do with human rights everything to do with including as many people as possible.

Personally would prefer it if climbing/ climbers did business with more ethical companies but surely the purveyors of 'over caffeinated piss water' (I stole that) or sweat shop made sportswear would mutually benefit from sponsoring such events.  Should they not be putting something back in too?


 


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#133 Re: IFSC 2017
April 14, 2017, 10:07:32 am
Moo that's very sensible  :yes:

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#134 Re: IFSC 2017
April 15, 2017, 09:03:29 pm
Happy with this u-turn. IFSC, well done for listening. Why don't IFSC try something like Patreon? I'd be willing to donate a tenner fo sho.

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#135 Re: IFSC 2017
April 15, 2017, 10:58:48 pm
That is a neat website! I had thought about something like kickstarted or just giving to do the job but that seems much more appropriate.

Most people I would hope wouldn't mind dropping a tenner in the annual IFSC kitty, it's two pints of beer.

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#136 Re: IFSC 2017
April 16, 2017, 08:10:06 am
2 pints = £10  :jaw:

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#137 Re: IFSC 2017
April 16, 2017, 11:21:11 am
London prices!

You could probably stretch it a bit further at your local :beer2:

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#138 Re: IFSC 2017
April 16, 2017, 11:26:18 am
S.manchester prices too if you go to the right/wrong place.

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#139 Re: IFSC 2017
April 16, 2017, 11:34:00 am
Under three Euros in the Frankenjura.

(Where I am not - it's pissing down and due to turn to snow tomorrow. Top Easter weekend, off to the wall shortly  :furious:)

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#140 Re: IFSC 2017
April 17, 2017, 11:24:03 am
Isn't tennis one of the few sports with no actual time limit on a match?

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#141 Re: IFSC 2017
April 17, 2017, 12:03:15 pm
Isn't tennis one of the few sports with no actual time limit on a match?

And snooker, and that has huge TV ratings.

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#142 Re: IFSC 2017
April 22, 2017, 08:54:36 am
So, Chongqing men's qualis.

Ten Japanese men through to the semis if I'm counting correctly.

Nine of the current top 20 not through including Sean McColl, Rustam, Jernej Kruder ...

Interesting to see that "CHN" and "HKG" are separate teams. Plenty of participants from both so clearly no lack of local interest, although nobody qualified from either.

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#143 Re: IFSC 2017
April 22, 2017, 10:32:21 am
Megan Mascarenas out too. Doesn't look like the same climber as last season..injuries?

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#144 Re: IFSC 2017
April 22, 2017, 11:43:09 am
IFSC are optimistic about streaming semis and finals tomorrow (2:30am and 11am UK time respectively).
http://www.ifsc-climbing.org/index.php/news/item/920-live-streaming-for-chongqing

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#145 Re: IFSC 2017
April 22, 2017, 11:54:11 am
Micheala and shauna through, looks like Leached a bit of a nightmare tho

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#146 Re: IFSC 2017
April 22, 2017, 02:53:53 pm
*Leah had* obviously...

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#147 Re: IFSC 2017
April 23, 2017, 11:09:00 am
Tell me that isn't full sun on the wall!

Also Doug thanks for posting this morning's times. Yesterday I assumed that the finals would also be craZY o'clock - I'm not climbing this weekend due to a cut finger so live IFSC is welcome  :thumbsup:

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#148 Re: IFSC 2017
April 23, 2017, 11:40:59 am
Women's one, time to step up Janja.

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#149 Re: IFSC 2017
April 23, 2017, 12:40:04 pm
Exciting stuff so far.

FUCK 4 MINS FLAT SIDEWAYS UP THE ARSE tho.

 

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