[Duma]

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old news - they're counting again now.

[tomtom]

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old news - they're counting again now.

Yup. Sorry time zone cock up by me!

[Bradders]

Assuming Warnock and Ossoff are both seated the Senate will be split 50/50. The Democrats will represent 41,549,808 more people than the Republicans.

Interesting stat, thanks. Makes a mockery of the two senators per state rule in my opinion!

[Oldmanmatt]

That crowd in DC is alarmingly large.
Not to mention, refusing to seat the elected rep in PA, coupled with expelling the LtGov from the state house...
Nuts. Dangerous and crazy. Somebody will die before the day is out and quite a large number in that crowd will be dead in a month.

[Bradders]

Trump really is throwing Pence to the wolves, claiming he can overturn the result. Classic Trump / gangster president, setting someone up to take the heat.

[IanP]

Pence has released a letter saying he will not stop Biden's electoral votes being counted.

And Mitch McConnell emphatically not supporting Trump:

“This election was actually not unusually close,”
“We cannot declare ourselves a national board of elections on steroids,”

Galen Druke on FiveThirtyEight blog

"McConnell is essentially making a speech arguing that America should be a democratic republic. And that position is dividing his party."

[andy popp]

The Capitol has been breached and rioters are inside.

[abarro81]

Given the obviousness of Trump supporters being c*nts, it seems weird that they've now managed to get into the Captiol building (judging by guardian live updates). You'd have thought the authorities would have this shit on lock? Or are the police backing off because they're all Trump supporters?

[tomtom]

The Capitol has been breached and rioters are inside.

Watching Twitter updates now. Bonkers. CNN calling it an attempted coup...

[andy popp]

White supremacy (reply to Abarro).

[Oldmanmatt]

It’s not an attempted coup, it is a coup in progress.
An illegal army was gathered and marched to the Capitol, where they stormed the building.

[abarro81]

Pretty weird watching people in camo with guns as part of a group breaking into the building where they're doing the formalities of putting in a new president. I guess if it were the other way around there'd have been a firefight already...
https://twitter.com/HadiNili/status/1346869048785698818

In fact, if it were a different (oil rich) country America probably would be planning an invasion by now 

[andy popp]

Pretty weird watching people in camo with guns as part of a group breaking into the building where they're doing the formalities of putting in a new president. I guess if it were the other way around there'd have been a firefight already...
https://twitter.com/HadiNili/status/1346869048785698818

In fact, if it were a different (oil rich) country America probably would be planning an invasion by now 

This is the Georgia state capitol, but yes. DC has really strict gun laws but we're going to see guns on the streets there tonight.

[andy popp]

Inside the US Capitol now: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1346902776538750976

[abarro81]

This is the Georgia state capitol, but yes. DC has really strict gun laws but we're going to see guns on the streets there tonight.

Ha, that'll teach me to skim the caption and just watch the video 

[andy popp]

Person shot inside the Capitol.

[Oldmanmatt]

Multiple gunshots being reported.

[tomtom]

What a mess (a preventable mess). Defence sec refusing to sanction national guard.

Meanwhile

[abarro81]

Pretty embarrassing for the USA. Bet China, Iran etc are finding it all funny as f.

[Oldmanmatt]

What a mess (a preventable mess). Defence sec refusing to sanction national guard.

Meanwhile

DOD refusing to change tasking for DC guard, is an act of sedition.
Is this going all the way? However ceremonial todays session was supposed to be, I’m pretty sure Biden is not president until it’s completed. Does anyone think that’s going to happen soon?

Edit:
VA Governor is sending the VA Guard, my retired US Army Col friend, thinks at the moment, he has done so without DOD nod.
I believe there is some cross over in DOD and State’s control of the Guard, pretty much for just such an occasion. DOD is under Trump control, a political appointee.

[petejh]

Given the obviousness of Trump supporters being c*nts, it seems weird that they've now managed to get into the Captiol building (judging by guardian live updates). You'd have thought the authorities would have this shit on lock? Or are the police backing off because they're all Trump supporters?

I suspect the law enforcement strategy is to underplay the (extreme!) seriousness of the situation for as long as possible and treat Trump protestors as softly as possible for as long as possible, for fear of inciting violent reaction. Law enforcement violence against protestors now could rapidly snowball into a gunfight inside Capitol and the public mood descending into nationwide violence etc. etc. etc. Give the morons their day/s in the limelight, taking selfies in Capitol, and try not to light the touch paper that could lead to mass civil disorder. The congress lawmakers will do what they're going do despite what protestors and Trump want. Some belated sanity at least by Trump with him sending messages for no violence. A glimpse that even he probably understands past his delusions what the consequences might be for him if he's seen to be responsible for an attempted coup

[tomtom]

Trumps called in the national guard.

[Oldmanmatt]

Trumps called in the national guard.

No.

His spokes person tweeted that a full half hour after the VA Governor dispatched the guard. It’s just the orange one trying to take credit again.

[andy popp]

I'm sorry Pete, but that is complete bullshit.

[Oldmanmatt]

Given the obviousness of Trump supporters being c*nts, it seems weird that they've now managed to get into the Captiol building (judging by guardian live updates). You'd have thought the authorities would have this shit on lock? Or are the police backing off because they're all Trump supporters?

I suspect the law enforcement strategy is to underplay the (extreme!) seriousness of the situation for as long as possible and treat Trump protestors as softly as possible for as long as possible, for fear of inciting violent reaction. Law enforcement violence against protestors now could rapidly snowball into a gunfight inside Capitol and the public mood descending into nationwide violence etc. etc. etc. Give the morons their day/s in the limelight, taking selfies in Capitol, and try not to light the touch paper that could lead to mass civil disorder. The congress lawmakers will do what they're going do despite what protestors and Trump want. Some belated sanity at least by Trump with him sending messages for no violence. A glimpse that even he probably understands past his delusions what the consequences might be for him if he's seen to be responsible for an attempted coup

I hope he’s shitting his pants, realising that this is exactly what he told the crowd to do, on camera, a few minutes earlier.

I hope, that he really hadn’t thought it through and that there’s no bigger plan in play here. The missing DC guard is worrying.