[Kingy]

Yes, Steve has done Hubble. Jim Pope has climbed Mr Hyde 8c+ at Ceuse this summer so he can be bumped up the list and his easier tick removed.

Yes Gaskins needs to go in at 9a+ for Violent New Breed. However, the route is unrepeated and the grade unconfirmed. It is guidebook convention to put a cross symbol (i.e. not a plus) next to such routes to denote this. Once the route has been repeated and the grade confirmed (or otherwise) then the symbol can be removed. Could this be done?

Also, Ally Smith's new route 'The Pirate' 8c is not yet repeated so the grade is not confirmed - it should properly have a cross symbol as well.

Lastly, the thread title has reverted to 8b+ again. I think mod permission is needed to change it. Either that or we could start a new thread? Its confusing to continue with the 8b+ title...

[Kingy]

Who's that Steve? and what's the route in question?

https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

Al from the Lakes climbed Cry Freedom 8c earlier this year (I'm don't know his surname, hopefully somebody can clarify.

Some more additions: Tim Emmett climbed Superman 8c+ at Cheakamus Canyon earlier this year. He can be bumped up
Mark 'Zippy' Pretty did the first ascent of Make it Funky 8c in 93
Ru has done Make it Funky

Fight the Feeling needs a cross symbol as it hasn't had its grade confirmed to my knowledge.

Rainshadow is spelt wrongly a few times. Surely worth an amend!

[Adam Lincoln]

Who's that Steve? and what's the route in question?

https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

Al from the Lakes climbed Cry Freedom 8c earlier this year (I'm don't know his surname, hopefully somebody can clarify.

Some more additions: Tim Emmett climbed Superman 8c+ at Cheakamus Canyon earlier this year. He can be bumped up
Mark 'Zippy' Pretty did the first ascent of Make it Funky 8c in 93
Ru has done Make it Funky

Fight the Feeling needs a cross symbol as it hasn't had its grade confirmed to my knowledge.

Rainshadow is spelt wrongly a few times. Surely worth an amend!

Al Wilson

[Kingy]

Nic Sellars has done Evolution 8c+
Tony Mitchell did the FA of True North 8c in 1993.
Richard Waterton has done Raining Bats and Dogs so he can be bumped up and his easier tick removed.

Sabotage 8c+ is unrepeated so should have a cross symbol

That's probably enough for now!

[Kingy]

Chris Doyle did the FA of The Holy Grail 8c at Llandulas Cave 2 years ago, not yet repeated.

[Kingy]

Mark Leach did the FA of Cry Freedom 8c in 1988.

[remus]

Good Knowledge Ted, thanks! I've added the (x) for first ascents/unconfirmed grades and made the changes you suggested.

https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

[remus]

Added Leach and Doyle https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

[Kingy]

Looking good. Great work!

One more thing, is it possible to re-order columns 2 and 3 so the name of the route appears first and then the grade following this as it seems to me to be the wrong way around? The emphasis should be on the name of the route and then its grade should come afterwards - this is how it appears in guidebooks anyway. Then the unrepeated symbol could be put after the grade and not the route name (as its only the grade which is not confirmed, not the name). Sorry to be a pedant!

[Kingy]

Ellis Butler Barker has climbed Brian 8c+ at Anstey's Cove (his entry is wrong.

[remus]

One more thing, is it possible to re-order columns 2 and 3 so the name of the route appears first and then the grade following this as it seems to me to be the wrong way around? The emphasis should be on the name of the route and then its grade should come afterwards - this is how it appears in guidebooks anyway. Then the unrepeated symbol could be put after the grade and not the route name (as its only the grade which is not confirmed, not the name). Sorry to be a pedant!

Personally I prefer climber, grade, route as the point of the list is to work out how many people are climbing at a certain level in the UK, the route itself is just a nice little bit of extra info. If there's a strong preference the other way Id be happy to change it though.

Moved the (x) to the grade instead of the route, good suggestion.

[remus]

Ellis Butler Barker has climbed Brian 8c+ at Anstey's Cove (his entry is wrong.

Done. You're gonna have to slow down, been meaning to make lunch for the last hour! 

https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

[Kingy]

Nice one, haha, I'm off climbing now, I'll leave you in peace! 

[gme]

Rich heap
Robin barker
John Welford
All make it funky.

[remus]

Rich heap
Robin barker
John Welford
All make it funky.

Good knowledge, thanks.

https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

[Doylo]

Rich heap
Robin barker
John Welford
All make it funky.

Does Welford’s The Bastard not get 8c+ now?

[haydn jones]

A lot of people on there for bat route I see 

[teestub]

A lot of people on there for bat route I see

I guess if you're going to break a new grade, it's good to do it on one of the best sport climbs in the country. You could say the same for Rainshadow.

I guess the other choice is queuing for Mecca extensions!!

[Teaboy]

A lot of people on there for bat route I see 

If that no longer makes the grade better edit Adam Jeewoth as he's done Raining Bats and Dogs

[Bradders]

A lot of people on there for bat route I see 

Similar number on for Make it Funky...just shows how routes come in and out of fashion.

[moose]

Ian Vickers - at least 8c (sub 2 hr RP campaign of True North!)

[Stu Littlefair]

M.I.F used to have a much bigger hold on the crux than it currently does, since the edge was improved with some sika that crumbled in later years

[remus]

Thanks for the updates https://github.com/bourbonspecial/UKStrongPeople/blob/master/men_routes.md

[teestub]

Speaking of extensions at the Tor - Char Williams - Mecca Extension 2015

Good blog from the time about The Process and The Journey http://themightychickpea.blogspot.com/2016/01/highlights-of-2015-part-iii.html

[spidermonkey09]

Speaking of extensions at the Tor - Char Williams - Mecca Extension 2015

Good blog from the time about The Process and The Journey http://themightychickpea.blogspot.com/2016/01/highlights-of-2015-part-iii.html

Brilliant blog!!