like drinking a pint of choc milk on the way back from the wall or something?
Protein shake = 30p. Pint of milk = 50p.Chocolate milk = ~£1?
4 pints of milk is £1 in tesco/asda, 95p in Aldi, thus my milk works out around 24.5p/pint. Choc powder from tesco = very little. If you use dried milk, it gets cheaper.
Also I guess it's worth pointing out that price point is not the best way to decide what to put in your body!
Regards to eating when training, it doesn't have to be particularly exact. There isn't going to be a great deal of difference if you eat prior or post training within 1-2 hours either side of that training session, as long as you eat something around that session, that's the important thing. The eating protein thing after isn't wrong as it's based on the fact that myofibrillar protein synthesis rate is at its highest approximately 1-2 hours post exercise, but again eating round about your training sessions should meet the requirements for "fueling" this process given digestion and intestinal absorption times.
For me there's a shop at the end of my road that sells milk from cows that live a little further up the road. Obviously the dairy industry is industrialised too, but it's a less energy intensive process than splitting the milk and then dehydrating it, just so you can add water to it again!
Quote from: psychomansam on May 20, 2014, 07:06:29 am4 pints of milk is £1 in tesco/asda, 95p in Aldi, thus my milk works out around 24.5p/pint. Choc powder from tesco = very little. If you use dried milk, it gets cheaper.Dairy farmers aren't too keen on those prices though.
In principle I'd love to go veggie but unfortunately I fucking hate all fruit and veg, bar potatoes. I've never seen a cooked vegetarian meal I would consider eating.
Paul I think Jamie has more of a problem with the mechanically reclaimed nature of the 'chicken bits' that get wizzed up, but that's a little OT.
I was interested to know why people feel that Protein Shakes = Bad, whereas in your case it seems like more of an environmental/lifestyle standpoint (which I fully accept)
They make bullshit claims, spend lots of money on marketing, are often expensive, and fill their drinks with all sorts of shit which may or may not cause long-term problems. And I very much doubt they have a digestible nutritional content equal to milk.
Quote from: psychomansam on May 20, 2014, 11:48:44 pmThey make bullshit claims, spend lots of money on marketing, are often expensive, and fill their drinks with all sorts of shit which may or may not cause long-term problems. And I very much doubt they have a digestible nutritional content equal to milk.So do McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Findus, Birds Eye, Iceland, Coca Cola etc. etc. etc., your point is?Surely, despite the original question, this is just an issue about educating people as to what a healthy, nutritional and balanced diet is, whether that includes meat or not, rather than polarising it into a pointless and repetitive debate about the pros/cons of protein shakes?
Not targeting athletes! Bolt and McDonald's spring to mind, via class sponsorship of major spring events etc. Etc.It's rare that there is ever a clear consensus on any source of scientific research there are always competing theories, that is tufa haute of the scientific method.Perhaps provide some links to the primary research on the competing theories and research that has been done that you seem aware of rather than ranting against protein shakes and bigging up milk.