[Fiend]

Fucksake, I did 120 months ago, you skinny fucker, miniscule BW is cheating Well done  .

[Nibile]

My next target would be/is 2,5 x BW with the dream being 3 x BW.
Despite not lifting regularly, since when I started doing snatches, I repeated my previous deadlift PB in each session.
In the last one especially, two weeks ago, I was tempted to step it up a notch but played it safe because I had ten days off for climbing, then.
On the following day I went to the roof and despite temps in the mid 20's I walked up the direct line and nearly did the hard extention. I was bolted to the holds, it felt amazing.
Talk about recruitment.
On the same matter, last Sunday I went to a comp, and after a few hours of bouldering, I managed to do a good number of one armers.
I think that there is a lot that I don't know about how our/my body responds to training stimuli. Recruitment, neural activation, etc.
It would be interesting to experiment a good lifting session before a climbing day to check if it was just a coincidence or can be taken advantage of.
This is just to say that I think that most climbers could benefit from some lifting.
And yes, in a gym crowded with skinny fat cardio freaks in a pool of sweat, and meatheads doing just isolation routines for pecs and biceps, lifting as heavy as one can is really really cool.

[douglas]

I weigh 60kg. Did 120 last night. I shudder to think how much 4 plates a side means. 160? I use my own weights in my living room, so going heavier would mean buying more or joining a gym- not keen for either of those!

4 plates a side is 160 plus the bar, so 180. That's 3 times bodyweight for you but less than 2.5 times for.
Nibile, what do you find best for front core? Deadlifts are giving me a strong back but steep bouldering recently I found I couldn't hold toe hooks like I used to. Front levers? Cheers!

[Nibile]

Hey Douglas!
Hmm, I don't know... I think I have a rather good core, but I'm terrible at toe hooking... maybe it's the tibialis muscle, and even the shape of the shoes can be crucial. For good toehooking very downturned shoes aren't great in my opinion.
Anyway, here's all the work I do that involves core tension:
- steep bouldering with poor footholds; setting problems on which you either can't do the move, or you swing and fall without good core;
- lock offs, face on, no twisting, with poor footholds;
- front levers and front lever pulls (while fingerboarding);
- deadlifting, snatch, press and some easy overhead squat.
Basically everything I do involves core tension. 

[Sasquatch]

Agree with nibs about the tibialis.  Also for toehooking, I think an area of pretty extreme weakness for most people is their hip flexor. 

On a more geneic view, I think there's a pretty big difference between isometric core tension strength, and dynamic core strength.  Many climbers have good core tension in their back, but poor dynamic ability hence why deadlifting helps.  I think the same tends to be true for the abs/obliques as well.  I do halfmoons and weighted ankles to bar to help with this....

Not 100%, but it seems like it makes a difference for me...

[douglas]

Thanks for the advice, both. Something to think about before I visit the cave again...

[cheque]

Fucksake, I did 120 months ago, you skinny fucker, miniscule BW is cheating

Keep it to yourself, but I wasn't hungover either. 

4 plates a side is 160 plus the bar, so 180. That's 3 times bodyweight for you but less than 2.5 times for.

A 20kg bar sounds hardcore. Mine must weigh a couple of kilos max and I don't factor it into the weight I'm lifting. Pretty sure my bar wouldn't even support 180kg!

[Nibile]

A 20kg bar sounds hardcore. Mine must weigh a couple of kilos max and I don't factor it into the weight I'm lifting. Pretty sure my bar wouldn't even support 180kg!

120 kilos on a crappy bar? Big no no.
Very dangerous.

[rodma]

A 20kg bar sounds hardcore. Mine must weigh a couple of kilos max and I don't factor it into the weight I'm lifting. Pretty sure my bar wouldn't even support 180kg!

120 kilos on a crappy bar? Big no no.
Very dangerous.

I posted about this earlier on in the thread. The york spinlock bars are at their max with that kind of load. The consequences of the bar snapping don't bear thinking about

[Fiend]

120kg x 3 at the gym today (gym bar is 20kg in itself so no worries there). First time in ages so quite pleased with that. Felt HARD tho.  rather than 

[mark s]

come on fiend,120 is a warm up weight 

[Fiend]

 

[mark s]

 

[Fultonius]

120kg x 3 at the gym today (gym bar is 20kg in itself so no worries there). First time in ages so quite pleased with that. Felt HARD tho.  rather than 

Fiend, you're going about this all the wrong way - you should not be worrying about weight you lift, but the inspiration that the bar and plates gives you. Stop being such a rampant weight chaser. 

[Fiend]

Bellend 

Funny enough, part of my motivation to go to the gym and do weights is a prior imagining of, and desire for, what it feels like to use my body in that way, presses and squats especially.

That and avoiding cardio.

[Fultonius]

 

It is quite an addictive feeling moving metal. Especially whole body movements. I quite like the OH squats for that reason.

[Nibile]

You are a bunch of sad weight chasers.
I lift just to feel as part of a beautiful environment. To soak up the beauty.

[mark s]

you sad twats,i did it for real reasons.to get big arms and make all your t shirts tight.its not about what you lift.your muscles cant read the kgs on weight plates 

[Sasquatch]

You guys are all wrong.  It's all about impressing the dumb gym birds...... 

Especially as the climbing birds are too smart for me.   

[Serpico]

You guys are all wrong.  It's all about impressing the dumb gym birds...... 

Especially as the climbing birds are too smart for me.   

Time for a new thread: DFBWGDL

[Sasquatch]

You guys are all wrong.  It's all about impressing the dumb gym birds...... 

Especially as the climbing birds are too smart for me.   

Time for a new thread: DFBWGDL

That seems like a bit of an contradiction in terms

[Serpico]

[Sasquatch]

Ouch!

She's about to DL 160+kg!

[mark s]

id eat my hat if she dl 180kg def a dfbwgdl though 

[douglas]

I was lifting 125 the other night and at this weight I switch to a mixed grip because the bar rolls out of a double overhand. However I was told I can tear a bicep lifting the mixed grip and should use straps instead with a double overhand. Is this good advice? Currently I've been lifting without a belt or straps, just because. I'm still a climber who deadlifts, not the other way round. Thanks!