Quote from: robertostallioni on February 23, 2012, 04:20:27 pmQuote from: ianv on February 23, 2012, 12:18:11 pm"The other possible benefit of doing weights is that it might help toughen you up to withstand longer sessions at the wall or multiple redpoint attempts in the same session. "This is why gymnasts do weights, so they can train the more technical aspects for longer.I see no evidence of the first point the second is not true in my opinion, but I'd be interested to here where you get this from. It is certainly contrary to everything I have seen/heard Surely if my maximum is 2 sets of 10 pullups in one hour, and I'm not got the opportunity to climb very much, say, then I could go to the wall and have a few attempts on a route with lots of deep locks and then I'd be spannered. Now if I can suddenly do 30 sets of 10 pullups in an hour, as a result of doing weights and bar exercises most days, then I'll surely manage a longer session? Which in turn means more time gaining experience of climbing movement when I do actually make it to a wall. ... I should really have added 'if you can't make it to a climbing wall/crag quite as often as you'd like...
Quote from: ianv on February 23, 2012, 12:18:11 pm"The other possible benefit of doing weights is that it might help toughen you up to withstand longer sessions at the wall or multiple redpoint attempts in the same session. "This is why gymnasts do weights, so they can train the more technical aspects for longer.I see no evidence of the first point the second is not true in my opinion, but I'd be interested to here where you get this from. It is certainly contrary to everything I have seen/heard
"The other possible benefit of doing weights is that it might help toughen you up to withstand longer sessions at the wall or multiple redpoint attempts in the same session. "This is why gymnasts do weights, so they can train the more technical aspects for longer.
Deadlifts are great.won't do them every week as takes days to recover.
But pull-ups only work larger muscles in your arms/shoulders.You'd likely find that your forearms get knackered before your arms/shoulders fatigue is perhaps the point.
Quote from: mark s on February 24, 2012, 11:04:11 amDeadlifts are great.won't do them every week as takes days to recover.Like most training, you become accustomed to it, training once a fortnight isn't likely to be very beneficial.where's the DOMS emoticon?
Quote from: rodma on February 24, 2012, 11:17:57 amQuote from: mark s on February 24, 2012, 11:04:11 amDeadlifts are great.won't do them every week as takes days to recover.Like most training, you become accustomed to it, training once a fortnight isn't likely to be very beneficial.where's the DOMS emoticon? I go the gym five days. Week,so not as if I'm slacking
I like the idea of the gymnastic bodyweight exercises but it's not easy getting hold of a pommel horse (or fitting) a set of gymnastic rings!Looks like the best bet is to do a variety of strength exercises (low reps, high weight) including squats.
Quote from: mark s on February 24, 2012, 02:37:05 pmQuote from: rodma on February 24, 2012, 11:17:57 amQuote from: mark s on February 24, 2012, 11:04:11 amDeadlifts are great.won't do them every week as takes days to recover.Like most training, you become accustomed to it, training once a fortnight isn't likely to be very beneficial.where's the DOMS emoticon? I go the gym five days. Week,so not as if I'm slackingWeird, why so long to recover??
I go the gym five days. Week,so not as if I'm slacking
Quote from: rodma on February 24, 2012, 02:54:34 pmQuote from: mark s on February 24, 2012, 02:37:05 pmQuote from: rodma on February 24, 2012, 11:17:57 amQuote from: mark s on February 24, 2012, 11:04:11 amDeadlifts are great.won't do them every week as takes days to recover.Like most training, you become accustomed to it, training once a fortnight isn't likely to be very beneficial.where's the DOMS emoticon? I go the gym five days. Week,so not as if I'm slackingWeird, why so long to recover??i vary my back workouts alot.this monday will include deadlifts.deadlifts are along with squats the heaviest weights you will lift.its a big strain on your body.its an excersise i like to do as heavy as possible,until failure.
regarding the dead lifts do you find any mass gain from bigger legs is compensated for by being stronger in the upper body? or do you need finger strength to spare? do the deadlifts even give you big legs...?