[hairich]

this is the most tedious thread i have ever read.you train at the wall to get strong.if a greasy git like stom is on before you clean the hold.otherwise go outside

[slackline]

Can someone post a link to the research in question.

If its been published in a journal then try Google Scholar to find it.

I've no idea whether it has or not though.

[rodma]

Sorry for taking the bait in the first place.

This thread is now seriously 

& I for one would like to know the answer/s.

I have no idea how you manage to get to sleep at night, with such weighty subjects on your mind.

[Simon Brown]

 

I'm an old git so I'll chip in my own ethical position on moron donkey marks/chalking holds.

Donkey marks are cheating. Use your eyes and memory; if you can't find the holds or remember where they are then go climb something easier. Or do some yoga.

Chalk is there to dry the sweat from your hands. I use it for that and blow/dust off any excess so as to leave as little trace as possible on the rock.

Does anybody else remember the idea "Thou shalt not wreck the place"?

[philo]

[Moo]

I think everyone who was involved in that chalk discussion should be thoroughly ashamed

[benj_d]

bet you did that phil 

[rginns]

IMAG0180 by rickginns, on Flickr

Woodhouse Scar Cave Buttress.
Pointless tickmarks, the holds are bloody massive.

[tommytwotone]

I meant to get a photo but didn't end up taking one, by last weekend there was not a tickmark, but a chalk circle round one of the starting crimps of Gypsy at Almscliff.

The mind boggles.

[nai]

I did have/have got somewhere a picture of the low traverse at Burbage West with every hand and foothold marked with a massive thick chalk circle.

I was literally speechless when I saw it.  Off to see if I can locate it.

[mark s]

i know its indoors but still,i thought that is worth taking a pic of
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37935700@N08/5441455532/#

[lagerstarfish]

that's just the 2"Cru tagging again

[Oli]

I did have/have got somewhere a picture of the low traverse at Burbage West with every hand and foothold marked with a massive thick chalk circle.

I was literally speechless when I saw it.  Off to see if I can locate it.

Maybe related, but on tuesday there was a huge (about 1ft diameter) circle of thick chalk all over the hold you rock onto on Remergence. There's trying to dry out holds, and there's creating a mess. This was definitely the latter and was easily visible from B.West. I forgot to take a picture though...

[Norton Sharley]

that's just the 2"Cru tagging again

there aint no way they can reach that high to tag

[lagerstarfish]

2" does not refer to their height...

[account_inactive]

Apologies for the (mini) crackbook link

[mrjonathanr]

This excess of chalking baffles me frankly. For the last two or three years about half the times I've gone to Pex there's been a solid ring of chalk, obviously from a ball, pasted over footholds on traverses, lines of easy problems etc. It's almost as if some over-zealous parent hasd been trying to mark holds out for a youngster, it's that excessive and unnecessary. Surely if people have the intelligence to find the quarry that's about all they'd need to understand the pointlessness of this chalking? It's just crass.

[Falling Down]

At Stanage Plantation a couple of weeks ago on a quiet afternoon at the Green Traverse boulder, a couple of young lads came over to join me, both relatively inexperienced but had a couple of attempts.  One asked which foothold I was using to pop off the crimp rail and after I pointed it out he whipped out a chalkball from his bag and poffed it all over the hold.  I immediately bushed it off and explained politely that you don't chalk footholds (or handholds for that matter).  They were both quite surprised/dumbfounded but I think they understood.... (fingers crossed).

I don't know where this habit has come from either.....

[GCW]

It's not like you can't see that foothold though.  It there was a slot under an overlap I could understand it, but to mark something you can see is just bizarre.

[philo]

At Stanage Plantation a couple of weeks ago on a quiet afternoon at the Green Traverse boulder, a couple of young lads came over to join me, both relatively inexperienced but had a couple of attempts.  One asked which foothold I was using to pop off the crimp rail and after I pointed it out he whipped out a chalkball from his bag and poffed it all over the hold.  I immediately bushed it off and explained politely that you don't chalk footholds (or handholds for that matter).  They were both quite surprised/dumbfounded but I think they understood.... (fingers crossed).

I don't know where this habit has come from either.....

indoor

[chriss]

As posted on YYFY was at Cratcliff yesterday Jerry's Traverse area was in a poor state. We then went over to Burbage & under The Nose & Western Eyes some one had done graffiti in blue chalk. Finally to Curbar where some one had bled all over the holds of Trackside, Strawberry's & the big pocket thing on the end.

I was honestly shocked at how little of a shit people seem to give now for boulders & areas in general. Rant over.

[slackline]

I doubt climbers use blue chalk.

[chriss]

I doubt climbers use blue chalk.

Fair point.

[Stubbs]

The Nose & Western Eyes some one had done graffiti in blue chalk.

Doesn't the Western Eyes graffiti say 'I love chalk'?  I thought that was pretty profound...

[tomtom]

Hmm... Blue chalk.... Strawberries.... could this be some sort of tick mark dirty protest by the long lost Sloper?