Seeing as you asked so nicely Tomhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/simonjacques/4057399679/#
look at the size of these thuckers we found on the madarinethe thing is you dont even need them as when you do the move its a blind slap I tried the route and could not do the move with the tick marks there casue they were throwing us out, We scrubbed the tick marks of and I did the moves next try without them
Forgot to repost the Paul Mitchell eliminate pic (clickable thumb):
Paul has a decent climbing pedigree and isn't a fool, whcih makes the excess of chalk particularly surprising.