[mark s]

doesnt look that heavy but feck me,it was a good 120 kg.had to walk 30 meters with it

[Nibile]

 

[Oldmanmatt]

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[Nibile]

hai!

Where did you find that pic of Dai?
Any info about how much added weight?

[jwi]

hai!

Where did you find that pic of Dai?
Any info about how much added weight?

On his blog
In the pic there's 28 kg added weight. He weight 58 kg according to Wikipedia

He also got a pic with 36 kg added weight, but it doesn't look as cool:

[SEDur]

Off topic I know, but It genuinely troubles me to see people are this strong and stronger, yet no one has repeated stuff like violent new breed, dreadnaught, mutation; and we don't see more ascents of stuff like isla de encanta(?), voyager, superman ss etc.

What are these wads doing with this kind of power?

[jwi]

Does that contain any legendary feats of strength? I've no frame of reference

[Pako]

that's beast with Dai, looks like 1 pad 3 finger with open hand. straight arm too, even harder than bent.

[a dense loner]

Good effort Shaz! Looks very heavy, not only that but it looks like a grit anvil.

I don't agree that straight arms harder than bent at all Pako, I can do many more sets on a straight arm.

On the other. Doesn't exist, never heard of it, need to be sub 8st, must get done once a wk, very conditionsy, only know 2 people that have tried properly

[Nibile]

Dai's a beast. 58+28 is a lot - almost half his bodyweight ADDED! - but 58+36 is mental.
Now I want to try.

[Denbob99]

What are these wads doing with this kind of power?

Living in London, climbing plastic.

[Pako]

Good effort Shaz! Looks very heavy, not only that but it looks like a grit anvil.

I don't agree that straight arms harder than bent at all Pako, I can do many more sets on a straight arm.

On the other. Doesn't exist, never heard of it, need to be sub 8st, must get done once a wk, very conditionsy, only know 2 people that have tried properly

I find it harder with a straight arm since if I have my arms bent then the weight of my gargantuan arm is being taken by my biceps, taking a bit of weight off the weight the fingers are carrying, while if my arm is straight all the weight is through my fingers. You probably just have stronger fingers than arms, more useful in climbing really.

[Nibile]

Pako, I don't know if I understood correctly, but given that your only point of contact with the hold are the fingers, there's no way that a bent arm can take some weight off from them.
I think that it's more a matter of recruitment, more muscles recruited mean more strength.

[Pako]

Pako, I don't know if I understood correctly, but given that your only point of contact with the hold are the fingers, there's no way that a bent arm can take some weight off from them.
I think that it's more a matter of recruitment, more muscles recruited mean more strength.

not sure if i understand what I am saying either, its just my way to rationalize why I can one arm hang edges with bent arms but not straight arms. Doesn't this happen with other people?

[jwi]

It's easier for me too with a bent arm and pulling up slowly. I always thought that is because I have weak shoulders

[a dense loner]

Weird, a few people have said it's easier bent but I don't find that to be the case for me 

[Pako]

Maybe, I do find it a bit hard to stay front on when I am on an edge, its fine with jugs though.

[Pako]

Lately I have been trying to fingerboard with straight arms when one arm hanging instead of bent, both to avoid pissing off my elbows and because if it feels harder then it must be better training. Haven't done it much though, what is the major consensus on it?

[Nibile]

I think it's safer to keep shoulders and elbows engaged even for straight arm hangs, both one and two armed.

[mctrials23]

re. the pic with dai, thats impressive but ultimately not that much weight in the grand scheme of things. There must be plenty of climbers who weigh 85kg plus without any added weight who can hang from a few fingers on a rock ring. Jan Hojer weights about 80kg and I would wager that he could do that with quite a bit of added weight.

[jwi]

Yes a 300 pound man often lifts more than a 150 pound man. What's your point?

[Rocksteady]

re. the pic with dai, thats impressive but ultimately not that much weight in the grand scheme of things. There must be plenty of climbers who weigh 85kg plus without any added weight who can hang from a few fingers on a rock ring. Jan Hojer weights about 80kg and I would wager that he could do that with quite a bit of added weight.

It's not really the maximal weight, it's the percentage of bodyweight that's impressive. Dai is hanging 162% of his bodyweight off 1 pad three fingers by adding 36kg.

For an 80kg climber to do the same they'd have to add about 50kg...

[Nibile]

re. the pic with dai, thats impressive but ultimately not that much weight in the grand scheme of things. There must be plenty of climbers who weigh 85kg plus without any added weight who can hang from a few fingers on a rock ring. Jan Hojer weights about 80kg and I would wager that he could do that with quite a bit of added weight.

It's not really the maximal weight, it's the percentage of bodyweight that's impressive. Dai is hanging 162% of his bodyweight off 1 pad three fingers by adding 36kg.

For an 80kg climber to do the same they'd have to add about 50kg...

Exactly.

[SA Chris]

they's need a proportionately deeper rung to accommodate (probably) longer fingers.

[abarro81]

Not to mention a small dimensional shift to account for mass scaling with volume whilst strength scales with cross-sectional area and I doubt connective tissue even changes size much