but the fact is a lot of climbers tend to piss and shit in all sorts of inappropriate places.
Quote from: Teaboy on July 04, 2011, 03:45:59 pmThe problem is that the residents of Malham don't particularly like climbers and so we are tolerated as long as we keep as low a profile as possible. Putting up a sign would be tangible evidence that, as a group, we would rather piss on your doorstep, than walk 150 meters to a public convenience. Similarly, the car park is not a climbers car park and putting up signs directed at climbers would suggest we climbers feel a certain entitlement to it that might get up the local residents' noses.Why? Is the sign going to read...Climbers must not piss in this car parkPerhaps a sign along the lines ofToilets are located for your convenience at 2 minutes down the road** Sorry don't actually know where this is.
The problem is that the residents of Malham don't particularly like climbers and so we are tolerated as long as we keep as low a profile as possible. Putting up a sign would be tangible evidence that, as a group, we would rather piss on your doorstep, than walk 150 meters to a public convenience. Similarly, the car park is not a climbers car park and putting up signs directed at climbers would suggest we climbers feel a certain entitlement to it that might get up the local residents' noses.
OK, slack-line you know best. Next time you're there put a sign up if you think it'll help, I was only giving my opinion.
Is NOT the fact, the fact is a lot of selfish ignorant thoughtless people tend to piss and shit in all sorts of inappropriate places.
Quote from: Teaboy on July 04, 2011, 04:01:46 pmOK, slack-line you know best. Next time you're there put a sign up if you think it'll help, I was only giving my opinion.Quote from: Adam Lincoln on July 04, 2011, 07:49:02 pm I don't see how a sign indicating where toilets are can be either implicitly or explicitly targeting climbers. Its just a sign....saying where toilets are.
No one is saying it would. I am saying that a sign shouldn't be needed to tell people not to piss in this guys bushes. If you can't see that, fair enough. I am done going round in circles here. It is just wrong. That is all that needs to be said. Thank you, and goodnight.
The last thing the world needs, never mind Malham is another sign.
Are there similar issues with micturition and defecation at the crag itself?
I find signs to toilets useful when I don't know an area. Not everyone who goes automatically knows where they are.
Quote from: slack---line on July 06, 2011, 09:50:46 amAre there similar issues with micturition and defecation at the crag itself?No, but there's piss and shit everywhere. (joke)I once got caught short at the crag, walked back to the village(NT carpark toilets) for a turkish, and, wanting to avoid that rigmarole again, I now give myself the old coffee enema in the morning and visit the NT carpark toilets to aid the unavoidable conclusion. I suppose I could just have a piss and a shit by my car though, as they can't get you for that.