I give up.
Quote from: Bradders on January 30, 2022, 04:00:07 pmI give up. Ok ill bite.I guess it depends what the longest route is you’d like to do. Kilnsey and Malham have routes where you would need a 70m but also could get away with a 30m
My question is how did you go a whole season without chopping?
Looking at buying a new rope. The contenders are made by either Fixe or Simond. Any idea which of these brands might have nicer handling?
While the methods used to make polyamide fabrics may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, they are all alike in being derived from polyamide monomers. In some cases, polyamides may be derived from other sources, but the most common source of these monomers is petroleum oil.This fossil fuel is also known as crude oil, and it is the base material for a number of different types of plastics and fuel. Petroleum oil is a non-renewable resource, and great lengths are taken to obtain it. Additionally, this base ingredient is inherently a pollutant, which means that the process of producing polyamide fabrics cannot be considered to be environmentally-friendly.
I do however wonder how Simond manage to manufacture such a good polyamide rope and sell it for such a low price... ...my hunch (zero evidence, I haven't looked) involves a Chinese manufacturer (that possibly uses coal as its power source) and opaque raw materials supply-chain, and not great environmental practice when disposing of the by-products of the manufacturing process. I could be completely wrong. https://sewport.com/fabrics-directory/polyamide-fabric
Another vote for the pink Simond 8.9, great rope, great price.I do however wonder how Simond manage to manufacture such a good polyamide rope and sell it for such a low price... ...my hunch (zero evidence, I haven't looked) involves a Chinese manufacturer (that possibly uses coal as its power source) and opaque raw materials supply-chain, and not great environmental practice when disposing of the by-products of the manufacturing process. I could be completely wrong. https://sewport.com/fabrics-directory/polyamide-fabricQuoteWhile the methods used to make polyamide fabrics may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, they are all alike in being derived from polyamide monomers. In some cases, polyamides may be derived from other sources, but the most common source of these monomers is petroleum oil.This fossil fuel is also known as crude oil, and it is the base material for a number of different types of plastics and fuel. Petroleum oil is a non-renewable resource, and great lengths are taken to obtain it. Additionally, this base ingredient is inherently a pollutant, which means that the process of producing polyamide fabrics cannot be considered to be environmentally-friendly.A slightly more ethical option - it's still a rope made from plastic fibres made from processing of crude oil - might be Edelrid:https://blog.weighmyrack.com/how-climbing-ropes-are-made-at-edelrid/https://blog.weighmyrack.com/eco-friendly-sustainable-climbing-ropes/https://www.bluesign.com/en
Quote from: petejh on March 14, 2022, 02:46:39 pmAnother vote for the pink Simond 8.9, great rope, great price.I do however wonder how Simond manage to manufacture such a good polyamide rope and sell it for such a low price... ...my hunch (zero evidence, I haven't looked) involves a Chinese manufacturer (that possibly uses coal as its power source) and opaque raw materials supply-chain, and not great environmental practice when disposing of the by-products of the manufacturing process. I could be completely wrong. https://sewport.com/fabrics-directory/polyamide-fabricQuoteWhile the methods used to make polyamide fabrics may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, they are all alike in being derived from polyamide monomers. In some cases, polyamides may be derived from other sources, but the most common source of these monomers is petroleum oil.This fossil fuel is also known as crude oil, and it is the base material for a number of different types of plastics and fuel. Petroleum oil is a non-renewable resource, and great lengths are taken to obtain it. Additionally, this base ingredient is inherently a pollutant, which means that the process of producing polyamide fabrics cannot be considered to be environmentally-friendly.A slightly more ethical option - it's still a rope made from plastic fibres made from processing of crude oil - might be Edelrid:https://blog.weighmyrack.com/how-climbing-ropes-are-made-at-edelrid/https://blog.weighmyrack.com/eco-friendly-sustainable-climbing-ropes/https://www.bluesign.com/enAll Simond/Decathlon ropes are manufactured in France (by Cousin if you remember those horrible ropes). There is some form of recycling program of the ropes as well.Source: https://www.grimper.com/news-100-cordes-simond-francaises-eco-concues
Quote from: Will Hunt on March 14, 2022, 09:47:16 amLooking at buying a new rope. The contenders are made by either Fixe or Simond. Any idea which of these brands might have nicer handling?The pink SImond 8.9 is one of the best ropes I've ever had. The green 9.5 otoh is very tangle-prone. Disappointing. But maybe I unpacked it wrong
My green one is fine… is it kinked or just tangly?
I've always found kinked up ropes out of the packet to be fine if you commit to spooling them out 10 times in a row.
Quote from: spidermonkey09 on March 14, 2022, 10:49:14 pmI've always found kinked up ropes out of the packet to be fine if you commit to spooling them out 10 times in a row.A pull-up bar is a useful tool for this.
Quote from: cheque on March 15, 2022, 12:05:17 amQuote from: spidermonkey09 on March 14, 2022, 10:49:14 pmI've always found kinked up ropes out of the packet to be fine if you commit to spooling them out 10 times in a row.A pull-up bar is a useful tool for this.Or wrap the rope in some thin card board with a hole in when you get it and pull rope out through hole.
Quote from: Adam Lincoln on March 15, 2022, 08:44:22 amQuote from: cheque on March 15, 2022, 12:05:17 amQuote from: spidermonkey09 on March 14, 2022, 10:49:14 pmI've always found kinked up ropes out of the packet to be fine if you commit to spooling them out 10 times in a row.A pull-up bar is a useful tool for this.Or wrap the rope in some thin card board with a hole in when you get it and pull rope out through hole.this seems like great knowledge!! so before you do anything to the rope just wrap it in cardboard and pull it out a hole in the cardboard?! You don't need to do anything to it?