I guess grades are subjective, but here are some of my personal gradings to illustrate the point: Raindogs 8aSuper Cool, 8aUrgent Action, 8a. Ecstasy 8a+, 1/2 a grade harder than UA. Herbie, 7cObsession 7cNew Dawn 7c+ no easier than The AshesThe Ashes 7c+Sticky Wicket 7b+Fifty for 5 7cChocolate Logger 7b+Magnetic fields, Energy Vampire, Overnight Sensation, Connect 4, The Oak all 8a+Runs for cover!
There is a very tedious trend for downgrading every route and boulder problem in the country.
I thought there was a trend for upgrading currently How about we start a trend for leaving the grades of well established routes alone?
I can barely think of anything which has been upgraded.
Isn't it only Andy that thinks Main Overhang is 8a? Never 8a in a million years. Actually it might be if anything else comes off the crux!
New Dawn 7c+ no easier than The Ashes
Sticky Wicket 7b+
Obsession 7c
Super Cool, 8aUrgent Action, 8a. Ecstasy 8a+, 1/2 a grade harder than UA. Herbie, 7cMagnetic fields......Connect 4, The Oak all 8a+
Harder routes get 8a+ if moves are harder than or equal to V7.
The reverse argument is that Magnetic is just a bouldering section to a short plod, is it 2 grades harder than connect 4?
Quote from: preston on April 16, 2011, 09:09:35 amThe reverse argument is that Magnetic is just a bouldering section to a short plod, is it 2 grades harder than connect 4? Definitely. The hardest bit of connect four is clipping the first bolt. Magnetic is a hard move after a pretty sustained sequence and you can still fall off the top.
I'd say using a clip stick is easier than the crux of Connect 4