[cofe]

Fact Hunt is in at 7a+. Seems to be the consensus.

What about Hurry on Sundown and the sitter, I think we have 6b+ and 7a at the minute, but I struggle to grade these two?

[Andy B]

What about Hurry on Sundown and the sitter, I think we have 6b+ and 7a at the minute, but I struggle to grade these two?

Did you find an easier way of doing the sitter (other than using Robin's not a chockstone chockstone)?

[cofe]

The way I do it uses a smeary edge in the face anyway. To be fair to Robin (you two should get married btw: 'Robin Banks' - genius), there is a foothold low on the crack that is part of the same block and not a chock, and there's an obvious chock that is obviously not cricket, and I'm pretty certain he was on about the former, cricket, foothold.

[Andy B]

(you two should get married btw: 'Robin Banks' - genius)

I'm glad you recognise that Robin would be the lady in our relationship.

there is a foothold low on the crack that is part of the same block and not a chock

I would be interested to see someone using that without dabbing.

When I did them I thought the stander was easy for a 7a and the sitter was hard for 7a+, but it was too scrittley to smear on the face at the time (hence the toe hooks round Flatworld) so maybe it has cleaned up enough to drop the grade now?

[cofe]

i heelhooked LF around flatworld with a RF smear, built hands up, moved RF up once (i think) above change in angle, heel out, then you're in the stand-up. Smears still feel a bit scrittley. I think it's straightforward enough from standing though.

[Ru]

I'll put LGRTRW and Stamina Humps up to 8a. Influx is harder than both so it should go up too.

[cofe]

does that mean power humps hard way goes up too boss?

[Ru]

does that mean power humps hard way goes up too boss?

Logically it should, but that would make it a grade harder than the Cave Problem, which seems wrong. Also I've just checked 8a.nu and can't see anyone saying it was 'hard' at 7b+. When did the foothold fall off, 2006? I can't remember. What do the people think?

[cofe]

forget the people. they can eat cake. i think cave problem at 7b+ is now fair, but it's full value 7b+. yeah, PHHW is no harder actually. fair enough.

as you were...

[Andy B]

...Influx is harder than both so it should go up too.

I agree.

I also think that PHHW is harder than the cave problem (slot start), but not necessarily a different grade.

[Stubbs]

I thought Powerhumps hard way was harder than the majority of the 7B+'s I've done and some of the 7C's, but it doesn't really play to my strengths.  Would love to see Weedkiller go up to 7B.

[abarro81]

In reply to all posts, just picking on some random problems:

Dick Williams: I think 7b+
Piss is not 7a+. 7b fo sho.
Ben's roof is harder than powerband IMO. 7c+.
Monologue 7b or 7b+?
Jason's roof: easier than terrace for me (I'm 6 ft 2), so if that's now 7c, Jason's can be 7b+...
Early doors is too hard for 7a.
Mark's left: bottom end 7a.
Surely staminahumps is as hard as staminaband? Or am I just too tall and weak? You can give powerhumps hard way 7c whilst you're at it..
Famous grouse sit makes no change in grade IMO - soft 7c either way.
Weedkiller 7a+.

[Andy B]

I thought Powerhumps hard way was harder than the majority of the 7B+'s I've done and some of the 7C's

Of course you did. You climb in Yorkshire.


I'm just bitter cos I still have a carpet burn on my face

[Stubbs]

Don't make me post the photo 

[Sloper]

Ok Strawberries is 4 down from 4+ 

[cofe]

Ok Strawberries is 4 down from 4+ 

It took you 5 pages to mention Strawberries. Good effort.

[Sloper]

I've been at work.

[cofe]

Fair play. Any thoughts on Early Doors?

[Sloper]

5+.

now where's my fucking autoboigraphy deal?  I'll get Dawes and Dave Thomas to co ghost write.  It's a winner I tell you.

[Baron]

Powerhumps hard way 7c. Never seen 7b+. Tor sandbaggers.

[The Sausage]

Can we keep some of our sandbags PLEASE?

Pwerhumps isn't 7c.

[danski]

As an 'outsider' who goes to the peak about 5-6 times a year it might be useful to get some perspective from someone who hasn't lapped all the easier 7's.

Fact Hunt - defo 7a+
Hurry on Sundown s/s 7a with left heel round left arete
Early Doors - easy 7a+ (don't downgrade everything)
Piss 7b and not piss either
Captain Hook - easy 7b+
Undercut dyno 7a+
Soft on the G 7b
Ben's Reverse 7a+
Marks Roof left - easy 7a

But as we all know, its horses for courses.  When's the guide coming out then?

[dave]

piss - 7d.

[T_B]

Captain Hook - easy 7b+

That's 3 votes for it going up then.

[galpinos]

Captain Hook - easy 7b+

That's 3 votes for it going up then.

As the only problem I've done harder than 7a+ I'll take the upgrade!