Seriously word, who is shorter than you?
Seriously word, who is shorter than you?You want to drop it in if you did it too, casual like.
My thoughts exactly. I say chuck it in the river if it's the same grade w/o.
I turned up at the wifes work the other day and at least half the people in the room were shorter than me.
and it feels top end 8a+ via either sequence.
it feels top end 8a+ via either sequence.
Quote from: El Mocho on July 13, 2010, 07:11:31 pmI turned up at the wifes work the other day and at least half the people in the room were shorter than me.She work as a housekeeper for a residential mining co-operative?Nice tick by the way.
It feels harder than just about any other 8a+ I've done/been on in the peak and easily a grade harder than the ones I've done at the Cornice, K3 and R'n'P. What's so unthinkable about having this super classic as a low end 8b rather than an undergraded 8a+? From what I've heard Myles gave it 8b at a time when he was going well, having just pissed up Magnetic commenting that it was only 8a. Apparently Vicars reckoned 8b after his onsight. The only people I've met so far who say 8a+ are britain's best sport climber and britain's tallest sport climber.It's even more 8b than Revelations.
Rich Heap reckons it's hard 8a
However, and some people may have not noticed since, but I broke (read: exploded mid move) a large (polished, long, perfectly horizontal edge about 2inches long and 20mm deep) fairly significant foothold off it, which I thought was key to getting to, resting in, and leaving the second undercut pod, before the moves right to get the top kneebar.As all recent ascents have been post this, I suspect it wont have altered anybody's sequence (maybe Jon C remembers it?) but that section certainly seemed significantly harder without it....
Zippy offered 'hard 8a' for k3 so I think you're safe with Monumental being a touch harder?
Everything got 8a+ in the day, that's why we had graded lists.
culloden is down to 8a! in the new recent developments. don't know anyone who's done it to propose the downgrade?!
I thought Zeke was still 8b?
Quote from: Andy B on July 22, 2010, 09:51:40 amI thought Zeke was still 8b?Direct - apparently yes, but the left-hand "90's version" clocks the 8a+ downgrade.
Quoteculloden is down to 8a! in the new recent developments. don't know anyone who's done it to propose the downgrade?!medwards?
I guess one must suite me
Quote from: Bonjoy on July 23, 2010, 11:54:23 amI guess one must suite me Does it pay for you to stay in a posh hotel room?
Interesting that Neil Mawson did MA yesterday and reckoned it to be one of the easier 8a+'s on the crag.
Surely time to man-up guys? MA was only ever mid-rank 8a+ at max. About the same as Four Door?
The old rule should still stand that if there is any doubt at all about the grade down it goes
where are the skeleton's in the Peak? Well for a start, ask yourself if the 8b/8a+ boundary is in the right place at present, 'cos with only eight 8b's and with thirty five 8a+’s you might well wonder if a different system is being used. You might redress the balance a tad by upping Boot Boys, Superfly and Albatrossity Direct to 8b, to name but three of the proper ‘ard 8a+’s. And by the way these figures assumes that Revelations weighs in at 8b which is more that a bit controversial to say the least!
But as Sharpholds said himself.....Quotewhere are the skeleton's in the Peak? Well for a start, ask yourself if the 8b/8a+ boundary is in the right place at present, 'cos with only eight 8b's and with thirty five 8a+’s you might well wonder if a different system is being used. You might redress the balance a tad by upping Boot Boys, Superfly and Albatrossity Direct to 8b, to name but three of the proper ‘ard 8a+’s. And by the way these figures assumes that Revelations weighs in at 8b which is more that a bit controversial to say the least!
Quote from: uptown on July 24, 2010, 04:20:57 pmBut as Sharpholds said himself.....Quotewhere are the skeleton's in the Peak? Well for a start, ask yourself if the 8b/8a+ boundary is in the right place at present, 'cos with only eight 8b's and with thirty five 8a+’s you might well wonder if a different system is being used. You might redress the balance a tad by upping Boot Boys, Superfly and Albatrossity Direct to 8b, to name but three of the proper ‘ard 8a+’s. And by the way these figures assumes that Revelations weighs in at 8b which is more that a bit controversial to say the least!Indeed.Just to add to the confusion I found Albatrossity Direct way easier than MA.