[webbo]

Blacks/Millets are doing Muria Velcros at £90 with free postage at the moment. Quite a lot of other stuff reduced as well.

[steveri]

Instinct SRs, £70 Rock and Run right now (mostly smaller).

[SA Chris]

resist....

[Fiend]

https://www.outside.co.uk/five-ten-anasazi-lace-v2-white-climbing-shoe.html

Possibly not the cheap shoes you're looking for, but there's a good point in their spiel at the bottom of the page 

[dunnyg]

I'm sat on a gold mine

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I've been searching for cheap sportiva theories for ages. Mine are almost 2 years old and nearly dead. They're supposed to be indoor comp shoes, which I do precisely none of, but they have become my first choice for grit bouldering unless there's really small positive footholds.

Too small for me but here's a cheap size 6 pair with a minor defect:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/La-Sportiva-Theory-Climbing-Shoe-EU39-5-UK6-Slight-Defect-50-Off-RRP-/194641517459?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[SA Chris]

Interesting Theory

[chicane]

https://www.mandmdirect.com/01/details/AD31915/adidas-Mens-Five-Ten-Climbing-Anasazi-Lace-Trainers-Track-Maroon-Core-Black-Core-White?search=redirect|Five+ten cheap pinks if you're a UK6 or 8.

[chicane]

loads of models and sizes, Anasazi,dragons etc

https://www.mandmdirect.com/02/fts/?search=five+ten

[WillRobertson]

Cheers! Any recent gen on sizing of the new dragons vs old? I was a 7 in the previous version and they fit like a glove.
Have tried on a pair of new 7s and they were too tight but unsure whether to go up a half or whole size. Searches of old comments/reviews show up mixed opinions so keen to hear from anyone else!
I'm about a 7.5 street size, but with pretty narrow heels.

[mrjonathanr]

They are owned by Adidas so if you are anywhere near an Adidas outlet they’ll be just sat on the shelves, Dragons next to random trainers.

[fatneck]

So Niad Moccs have dropped below £60 on various sites which make them tempting. I tried a on a pair of 8.5 at the wall the other day but couldn't get them on. Reckon I could just about get them on at home with no pressure and a couple of plastic bags. I appreciate that moccs are a niche shoe these days but has anyone any knowledge on whether they bag as much as the old moccs?

[cheque]

I haven’t tried them but looking at the construction I don’t think they’ll stretch as much because of the rubber toe covering.

[rginns]

So Niad Moccs have dropped below £60 on various sites which make them tempting. I tried a on a pair of 8.5 at the wall the other day but couldn't get them on. Reckon I could just about get them on at home with no pressure and a couple of plastic bags. I appreciate that moccs are a niche shoe these days but has anyone any knowledge on whether they bag as much as the old moccs?

I was tempted myself and got a pair. If you get the sizing right (completely different from the old ones) then I'm thinking it's worth a punt for general crag / tradding shoes.
The upper is leather and so will probably bag out half a size or so. I'd err on the tighter side in view of this.
If it were synthetic (ie the new anasazi) it'd stay the same size.

[Johnny Brown]

The NIAD velcros are the softest, stretchiest shoes I've ever owned, despite the rubber toe, so I wouldn't hold out much hope for the moccs. Didn;t buy them super tight but they gained at least a half size in the first half hour, and that was just the beginning. I now have to wear socks. Recommended only if you value comfort over performance.

[teestub]

The NIAD velcros are the softest, stretchiest shoes I've ever owned, despite the rubber toe, so I wouldn't hold out much hope for the moccs. Didn;t buy them super tight but they gained at least a half size in the first half hour, and that was just the beginning. I now have to wear socks. Recommended only if you value comfort over performance.

So they might be suitable if you wanted to climb 20 odd pitches up to 5.10 plus aid a few more tricky pitches, in a day?

[SA Chris]

rand of the brave.

[Johnny Brown]

I mean they wouldn't be my choice but let's not forget Lynn freed the Nose in a day in Bambas ffs.

[fatneck]

Thanks.

I got a pair of the old new Moccs in an 8 (which is what I always got the old old Moccs in) which I thought was a big mistake when I first tried to get them on but they were pretty quickly perfect. I now can't find them in an 8 so tempted to get a pair of Niad Moccs in an 8.5 and see how I go!

[northern yob]

I mean they wouldn't be my choice but let's not forget Lynn freed the Nose in a day in Bambas ffs.

Did she? I’ve always presumed so due to the photograph…. Maybe the shot was taken on a different day and she was tasked with pushing the new shoe. Or maybe she set a new standard in a truly terrible shoe. It’d be cool to know if she really did! She’s good but was she that good…..
I’m slightly disgusted with my cynical self for even questioning this. Proves the power of a photograph either way!

[mrjonathanr]

Donning something different ‘just for the camera’ would have been quite out of character for her. She’s a pretty straight up kind of person.

[Johnny Brown]

The NIAD velcros are the softest, stretchiest shoes I've ever owned, despite the rubber toe, so I wouldn't hold out much hope for the moccs. Didn;t buy them super tight but they gained at least a half size in the first half hour, and that was just the beginning. I now have to wear socks. Recommended only if you value comfort over performance.

So they might be suitable if you wanted to climb 20 odd pitches up to 5.10 plus aid a few more tricky pitches, in a day?

Less flippantly, for long routes esp including aid climbing, most people prefer a stiff boot so you get a level of support. And laces provide much more scope to crank up a big boot than two velcro straps, esp in the toes where you most want to adjust volume. Plus etriers are agony in soft boots whether you're 1 pitch in or 20. So no, NIADs are not likely to be ideal for NIADing.

[teestub]

So not only have they ruined their most loved shoe model, they have also given it a totally inappropriate name. Top work Adidas!

[duncan]

The NIAD velcros are the softest, stretchiest shoes I've ever owned, despite the rubber toe, so I wouldn't hold out much hope for the moccs. Didn;t buy them super tight but they gained at least a half size in the first half hour, and that was just the beginning. I now have to wear socks. Recommended only if you value comfort over performance.

So they might be suitable if you wanted to climb 20 odd pitches up to 5.10 plus aid a few more tricky pitches, in a day?

Less flippantly, for long routes esp including aid climbing, most people prefer a stiff boot so you get a level of support. And laces provide much more scope to crank up a big boot than two velcro straps, esp in the toes where you most want to adjust volume. Plus etriers are agony in soft boots whether you're 1 pitch in or 20. So no, NIADs are not likely to be ideal for NIADing.

This.

However they are great for training for a NIAD: a broad forefoot and unlined suede uppers means your toes will be happy (and red) after 100s of metres on an autobelay or easy routes.

[Steve R]

mandmdirect have quite a lot of 5:10/adidas models going very cheap.  Heard terrible things about these but I took a punt and got the anasazi velcros and mocs (not-niad ones) from here, seem good and much the same as 'old' five tens.  Just ordered another pair of velcros since they came back in stock in my size.  Order one full number size up from pre adidas 5:10 and can't go wrong.
https://www.mandmdirect.com/01/details/AD31106?lid=QB1

edit: don't think the above sizing rule applies to dragons https://www.mandmdirect.com/01/details/AD30870?lid=QB1  worth a check on bananafingers' shoe comparitor tool