[Doylo]

Stop hating on the G.

Love to all the G's 

[GCW]

Love to all the G's 

Cheers 

[Nibile]

Oh, so in the "real world" people get two hours of sleep, then get on Hubble in poor conditions getting to the last hold several times, all before hopping on a plane?
If that wasn't being a great ambassador of climbing, I don't know what it could be.

[Jaspersharpe]

Lazy cunt Ondra and shame on Gresham for letting people know. Wankers.

[a dense loner]

To be fair to Adam I remember Blackpool Sam going to font and not doing anything

[tim palmer]

Sorry for my slight sarcasm, ondra is clearly a hero of the first order and it is great he is still keen to climb other people's hard routes ( hubble is clearly nails).  The ambassador thing just seemed a bit silly

[SA Chris]

The ambassador thing just seemed a bit silly

+1. There are loads of people out there who do a hell of a lot more, and received a lot less accolades for their effort.

[slackline]

The ambassador thing just seemed a bit silly

I agree, but in the context of them both being sponsored by La Sportiva (and others) its clear why it was said.

[tim palmer]

I agree, but in the context of them both being sponsored by La Sportiva (and others) its clear why it was said.

Yes absolutely, is it depressing that that is the first thing that popped into my cynical little brain too?

[slackline]

is it depressing that that is the first thing that popped into my cynical little brain too?

Not to me.

[SA Chris]

I agree, but in the context of them both being sponsored by La Sportiva (and others) its clear why it was said.

Yes absolutely, is it depressing that that is the first thing that popped into my cynical little brain too?

That hadn't crossed my mind. More cynical than me, impressive!

[a dense loner]

Who are these people that do a hell of a lot more than ondra? The mans a climber and he happens to be, quite easily arguably, the best on earth.

[Jaspersharpe]

Fuck me, so now what people are saying is that Ondra and Gresham are both doing their jobs well. Again, shame on them! This isn't cynicism it's plain stupid.

And what Dense said.

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[miso soup]

I'm confused by the timeline now, did he do all the E7 on-sights after work on the same day he didn't do Hubble?  That would be more impressive than any of it, I don't even go to the wall after two hours sleep and a day at work.

[petejh]

Come on Jasper-Dense, I think you're missing the point being made which is that yes, Ondra is one of the great 'ambassadors' of climbing, but it's not because of relative trivialites like going to the tor early in the morning after a flight. He should be doing that sort of thing.  Plenty of people considered 'ambassadors' out there who don't crank 9 or 8 anything, it's not all about climbing hard. More often the sort of selfless work to improve something outside the self or devotion to mastery for the sake of mastery. I think that's what jars with some (not me) in that tweet - it implies to be considered an ambassador is to get up early and try hard after a flight - that someone else paid for - whilst on a quick work trip (which you're getting paid for). Not exactly selfless.

[a dense loner]

I'm not arguing about any of that, grades are meaningless as well. I don't care if he climbs 2a the point, well not even a point, was he's a climber and he took it upon himself to go climbing. After his sponsors had paid for him to come here on a flying visit for work, he didn't need to go and try Hubble he didn't need to go to millstone. He could have got someone with ID to buy him a nice pint and just gone home after a job well done. But he did what most people would do ie climb after/before work, he just did it earlier and better than anyone else would/could have done.
I've not heard him doing anything else since leaving hathersage, so did he get to the airport ok?

[shark]

I'm confused by the timeline now, did he do all the E7 on-sights after work on the same day he didn't do Hubble?  That would be more impressive than any of it, I don't even go to the wall after two hours sleep and a day at work.

Yes and yes

[petejh]

I'm confused by the timeline now, did he do all the E7 on-sights after work on the same day he didn't do Hubble?  That would be more impressive than any of it, I don't even go to the wall after two hours sleep and a day at work.

Yes and yes

What about the airport?

[shurt]

All of this aside its still Hubble 3 Ondra 0

[Lopez]

Has everyone missed the bombshell in that write-up or am i grossly out of touch and it is old news?

AFAIK it is the first time that it gets 'confirmed' that Hubble is 9a. I know, he hasn't done it yet, it was humid and hot, etc. but... 

[Doylo]

He said it was 9a last time he tried it too.

[shark]

Has everyone missed the bombshell in that write-up or am i grossly out of touch and it is old news?

AFAIK it is the first time that it gets 'confirmed' that Hubble is 9a. I know, he hasn't done it yet, it was humid and hot, etc. but... 

Its in the draft of the definitive guide at 9a so it must be definitive 9a.

The only person that questioned it was Grimer but apparently he's shit on undercuts.

[Lopez]

All right. I thought last time he said it was 'likely' 9a. All i can find is The world's first 8c+, which could be easily even 9a in my opinion

Oh well, back under my bridge

[shark]

All right. I thought last time he said it was 'likely' 9a. All i can find is The world's first 8c+, which could be easily even 9a in my opinion

Oh well, back under my bridge

Big question is whether it is Font 8B+

[Jaspersharpe]

Nobody ever questioned the 8B+ grade. Or E10 7b actually.