Quote from: Teaboy on September 19, 2014, 11:54:31 amI'd like to think that comments from climbers about how muscly a woman looks are not intended pejorativelyI think they almost never are. They may indeed be intended as a complement. It's just a bit insensitive not to realise that most women won't take it that way...
I'd like to think that comments from climbers about how muscly a woman looks are not intended pejoratively
tell me with your hand on your heart that that's an average cross section of sporty women.
And yet I have never seen you manage it.
No, but a cross-section of surfy women? Maybe. It's not caving.
One of the surfers is called Coco Ho.
Stu its not nonsense at all.I have seen them at comps in the flesh and i can assure you a majority of them are athleticly built to a point where i would guess the normal womens mags would not put them into print. All of the top ten other than Sally fitz and perhaps Laura enever would look pretty big next to a majority of girl climbers, built very much in the Jess Ennis mould that was championed by so many. All of them are there because they are the best athletes, yes you can make money from the sport by being a pretty surfer but non of them fall into that category.
Bonjoy? Never mind, it's gone now. Didn't get that at all...
Stu I've inferred from that that you think I'm ugly? How could you I'm shattered. I can't believe five ten dropped Ryan in their cull, he's so much fitter than the others. Obviously nonsense aside I really don't see your point at all tho stu. Are you saying to me that all the sponsored women in climbing are more attractive than their peers / underlings? If so what utter rot. On top of which you're doing them a disservice by asking people to judge them on looks, which is exactly what you seem to be doing.
What I'm saying is that there may be women who aren't making it, despite their talent.
QuoteWhat I'm saying is that there may be women who aren't making it, despite their talent.Define making it.I can name you any number of male climbers who haven't 'made it' in any financial/ sponsorship sense despite being brilliant, and some gorgeous to boot. You have to be commercially minded and you have to be prepared to promote yourself, which most climbers aren't.
there are only two possibilities