market segregation is the reason it won't happen.
albeit not a nikon user, i'm not that fussed about decent primes, i want decent, Canon/Nikon crop format zooms, specifically a 50-150mm 2.8 from either manufacturer. I'm not interested in carrying round a bag full of primes, I want a quality zoom, and I'm reasonably 'discerning'. market segregation is the reason it won't happen.
Quote from: cofe on June 23, 2010, 11:01:12 amalbeit not a nikon user, i'm not that fussed about decent primes, i want decent, Canon/Nikon crop format zooms, specifically a 50-150mm 2.8 from either manufacturer. I'm not interested in carrying round a bag full of primes, I want a quality zoom, and I'm reasonably 'discerning'. market segregation is the reason it won't happen.There are plenty of "quality" zooms, you just have to pay the necessary dosh to get them http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-nikon-14-24mm-f2-8-g-af-s-ed-lens/p1023050 http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-nikon-24-70mm-f2-8-g-af-s-ed-lens/p1023051 http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-nikon-70-200mm-af-s-nikkor-f2-8g-ed-vr-ii-lens/p1032957 http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-nikon-200-400mm-f4-g-vr-ii-af-s-ed-lens/p1520588
What johnny brown said. Maybe we should put it in capital letters next time so people can read and understand? Fucking hell.
yes johnny I said outdoor photographers, heard of Michael Clark
DX will probably be phased out by the major SLR manufacturers in 4-5 years
Just because you and cofe shoot on crop sensors, with DX lenses doesn't mean the whole world does.
The problem is that most of the DX lenses are a pile of shit compared to the FF equivalent,
but my point still stands, why would they develop a whole range of high quality DX sized lenses when it's either very expensive or difficult to produce something that matches up to the quality of the Full-Frame stuff
I would say the best you can hope for, is they start to reduce the size/weight of full frame zooms in the future, or come out with less bulky primes,
Light, strong, and durable.....they should just start making everything out of titanium
Sigma 10-20mm DX
Nikon 14-24mm DX
Tokina 10-17mm DX
Nikon 18-200mm DX
Quote from: JamesD on June 24, 2010, 11:48:51 amSigma 10-20mm DXStrictly this isn't a DX lens as its third party and therefore out of the debate of what nikon or canon are likely to deliver. But still, the only FX equivalent to this lens is the Sigma 15-30mm. Given reviews of both I'd say thats a win for DX.Quote from: JamesD on June 24, 2010, 11:48:51 amNikon 14-24mm DXThis lens doesn't exist. You either mean the 14-24mm 2.8 which isn't DX, or the 12-24mm DX. If the latter then the equivalent is the 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5 AF-D. Not exactly a resounding win for FX, maybe a draw.Quote from: JamesD on June 24, 2010, 11:48:51 amTokina 10-17mm DXSame third party comment as before. There is no FX fisheye zoom.Quote from: JamesD on June 24, 2010, 11:48:51 amNikon 18-200mm DXAgain there is no FX equivalent. nearest thing is the 28-200mm, which lacks VR and 100mm of reach at the long end. Not exactly a win.Sorry to be picky but I'm not seeing that "most of the DX lenses are a pile of shit compared to the FF equivalent".
it'll probably fit on a D3s, they're that amazing.
So johnny, i'm guessing your tiny super sharp lenses that fitted onto a titanium body were all primes yeah?
The reason why the "more expensive" fx lenses don't have comparable lenses with a long focal range, is that it's very difficult/expensive to make something with such a long focal range, with great image quality throughout said focal range, the longer the gap, the wider the aperture, the pricier it gets, just look at the 200-400mm lens for an example, similarly you are paying in many instances for the ability to shoot at a very wide aperture throughout the focal range.
most of the DX lenses are a pile of shit compared to the FF equivalent
None of the DX lenses can touch most of the primes for image quality, however most of the FX/FF whatever you want to call them lenses either equal or surpass a lot of the primes for sharpness/image quality/flare control/lack of CA and so on throughout their focal range, (excluding the telephoto primes of course, they are another level above)