[Drew]

I was indeed on FG, but I did get there a bit later on. I think I got parked up about 10.30. Went to join a few others.

[Dolly]

Ah OK

[lagerstarfish]

Secret Garden was disappointing cold-glassy yesterday afternoon

dry and sheltered though

a tiny change in temp or humidity could have made all the difference

[Johnny Brown]

I'm almost completely convinced that 'glassy' conditions are down to skin, not rock.

[tomtom]

Gardoms was good - but the wind was biting even though it wasn't that strong.. (Had a freezing session at BBG W on wed Dolly - couldn't face it again!) then wandered accross to the far end of Baslow (probs under the monument) they were ok ish (some seepage but climb able) and nicely sheltered..

[tomtom]

I'm almost completely convinced that 'glassy' conditions are down to skin, not rock.

Maybe - though BBG W felt really odd on Wednesday - glassy as lagers put it.. Some things were sticking fine but others not..

[Dolly]

Whereabouts were you @ Gardoms TT ?
Is everything dry ATM ?

[Bonjoy]

I'm almost completely convinced that 'glassy' conditions are down to skin, not rock.

I think the same. The colder it is the longer it takes your skin to warm up. I think humidity might be a factor as well. Sub-zero means little/no humidity.

[tomtom]

Whereabouts were you @ Gardoms TT ?
Is everything dry ATM ?

I was trying Soft on the G.... f*ck its hard! I can get off the ground guppying the arete and then lurch a bit, but nothing else Almost feels like I'm too tall for it (wedging knees under elbows etc..).. Everything looked fine, except SOTG and 8Ball were chalked/tickmarked to death (I brushed a load off). Didnt look at any of the Roofs.. but everything I saw was bone dry so suspect they are fine..

[Dolly]

Cheers - was hoping to go further along the edge on Sunday
Are you starting with your r foot on ?

[tomtom]

Cheers - was hoping to go further along the edge on Sunday
Are you starting with your r foot on ?

Yes, then hopping my LF up onto the left face.
Conditions wise the ground is frozen solid up there - puddles frozen etc.. so I would have thought it fine on Sunday unless it warms up a load.. (or dumps a load of snow..)

[andyd]

I was trying Soft on the G.... f*ck its hard! I can get off the ground guppying the arete and then lurch a bit, but nothing else Almost feels like I'm too tall for it (wedging knees under elbows etc..)..
[/quote]

I feel a siege coming TT!

[andy_e]

[Sub-zero means little/no humidity.

Eh? No it doesn't. it's frequently been 90+% humidity forecast with sub-zero temeperatures.

[Gritlad]

Burbage South was mint conditions today. All things dry too.

[nai]

I'm almost completely convinced that 'glassy' conditions are down to skin, not rock.

I think the same. The colder it is the longer it takes your skin to warm up. I think humidity might be a factor as well. Sub-zero means little/no humidity.

Thing is I warmed up at home which felt fine and warmups went ok too but anything relying on open-hand, slopey, draggy friction you could forget.  Also, my feet kept skidding off holds and while that happens when they're really cold I did warm them and my shoes (did type "boots", must stop calling them that, haven't worn boots since the 90s) up again but it kept happening.  It was glassy.

[andy popp]

Whereabouts were you @ Gardoms TT ?
Is everything dry ATM ?

I was trying Soft on the G.... f*ck its hard! I can get off the ground guppying the arete and then lurch a bit, but nothing else

I think this came up on Peak 7B thread - I think Soft on the G is a poor problem; attractive line but it climbs rubbish.

[Fiend]

I'm almost completely convinced that 'glassy' conditions are down to skin, not rock.

Yup. I've never got them and I presume the rock hasn't been magically different for me.

[Johnny Brown]

I was trying Soft on the G.... f*ck its hard! I can get off the ground guppying the arete and then lurch a bit, but nothing else

I think this came up on Peak 7B thread - I think Soft on the G is a poor problem; attractive line but it climbs rubbish.

I'd say the opposite: looks meh, climbs good. Never managed to get bothered enough to try either of the low starts properly mind.

[dr_botnik]

was there much more snow after 1330? was at plantation when an arctic blizzard started, had totally fizzled out by the time I reached apparent north in car though, anybody been this avo?

[cheque]

Light snow all afternoon at Secret Garden but only a heavier shower at around 4:30-5PM stuck- I hung around was able to climb Beach Ball all afternoon but I imagine the problems with higher, less-thwackable holds will be out of condition now.

I had a look at Mother Cap on the way back to the car- snow-free but absolutely baltic wind. Mother's Pet was the same but without the wind.

[mark20]

Was good at Rowtor and the Stride today. Then there was a bit of a blizzard at 4ish, snow settling too so might not be the best tomorrow.
Went up to Curbar on the way home and there wasn't any snow.

[dr_botnik]

Rivelin was pretty mint throughout the day (except the quarry, that was pretty gopping)

[tomtom]

Just driven over the Snake - rain/clag from Glossop to ladybower - drizzle and wet roads/damp walls from there westward. Not an ideal day I would suggest :/

[Fidders]

Thinking of heading up to Burbage this afternoon. Anyone know what it's like up there? I'm guessing lots of dampness/clag?

[Johnny Brown]

Clag doesn't necessarily mean damp, but I suspect it might today given yesterday's rain. There's a breeze too, it'll be pretty raw up there.