Quote from: remus on April 08, 2024, 01:21:21 pmed: just in case the waters were looking a little too clear, it sounds like he's probably done his midnight project in Switzerland too (this one https://www.instagram.com/p/CtuChLNtivi/). Both likely 9A. Looking forward to hearing more as I midnight sounds like it's been a real journey: tiny holds, very skin intensive, fell off the easy moves at the end last season etc.Interesting, where are you getting that from Remus? Other than your sixth sense for hard climbing news!
ed: just in case the waters were looking a little too clear, it sounds like he's probably done his midnight project in Switzerland too (this one https://www.instagram.com/p/CtuChLNtivi/). Both likely 9A. Looking forward to hearing more as I midnight sounds like it's been a real journey: tiny holds, very skin intensive, fell off the easy moves at the end last season etc.
I'm lost. What has Aidan done?
[Rant]If I wasn't so busy I would spend an afternoon on creating a news-aggregate site that scrape insta accounts, send posts with enough impact to chat-gpt for light rewriting (and possible translation) and post it on a news site with lots of ads.I'm pretty sure that most news-aggregation sites can be replaced by a chat-bot, since they basically do the above manually. (Most sites do no attempt at verification by asking belayers/witnesses and do no attempts to analyse performances and put them in context anyway. So marginally better than a robot. If that.)[/Rant]
Time to reflect on the experience and emotions of such a significant life event such as this must be pondered as to not negatively impact one’s experience.
It feels a bit pretentious to me but also I'm not going to say how someone should or shouldn't say they've done a climb, really.
Quote from: ducko on April 08, 2024, 03:00:08 pmTime to reflect on the experience and emotions of such a significant life event such as this must be pondered as to not negatively impact one’s experience.For some people I'm sure this is true. Not for others - it's not the universal "must" you make out. For an alternative view on overthinking climbing rocks, see https://youtu.be/nuDS0jZ3zmk?si=-yduUbHbEq093n4r&t=183
Listen to the podcast and I don't think you could possibly accuse him of being pretentious about it at all.
if you've had a profound experience and make it public straight away and by the standard soulless channels, your relationship to that experience is irreversibly changed and immediately less 'yours'. And for what, just so the consumers can have their little fix?
Just lets not kid ourselves it's something it's not.
If one really wants to prevent one's own personal experience to be unfavourably altered, one could just not publicly unveil it at all. Add it to a new routes book or UKC logbooks or just not. And move on.
Quote from: Bradders on April 08, 2024, 03:53:01 pmListen to the podcast and I don't think you could possibly accuse him of being pretentious about it at all.Anyway, I think we'd all agreed Aidan can do what he wants and remus or dingdong could have just posted what they knew without worrying about breaking an NDA
I'm totally at ease with the fact that for some (most) people the experience of communicating their climbing endeavours to other people is part and parcel of it all. For others it may involve cryptic slow reveals, or secrecy, or no frills documentation. Again, each to their own.
As I wrote, it’s all fine by me, though I don’t think I need embrace anything I don’t wish to; embrace that!
Quote from: Tony S on April 08, 2024, 06:23:02 pmJust lets not kid ourselves it's something it's not.Not sure that I am? I'm just willing to credit someone not wanting to unveil their deeds in the standard way with the possibility that their reasons might not be cynical.
I guess what I'm saying is that I think our world is diminished or enriched depending on the extent to which we embrace human diversity.
I think one rapidly loses credibility on this front as soon as monetisation or selection of audience comes into it. That’s not to say that I think money or self-interest was a deliberate aim in this case, but that it is a general side-effect of how sponsorship works these days.