Isn't this just a summing up of British society at the moment - lots of moaning and lack of motivation to achieve something whether it be climbing or general stuff like work & jobs. People just seem to think they can get something now and not put any effort in.
I had an amazing trip out to the Grit, experiencing some of the best climbing anywhere and hangingout with the nicest group of climbers I’ve met anywhere. A big thank you goes out to everyone whohelped us out at one point or another on the trip: with rides, beta, places to sleep, free coffee, ect.You know who you are. Thank you!
a big "fuck you" to all the cliquey locals who've done nothing but give me shit for putting their noses out of joint and lighting a fire under their precious jingoistic scene
However, I'm in total agreement with Paul B on two points. One: Yeah maybe Pringle or someone WILL come over and flash Hubble etc. Dave Graham didn't though did he? I'd be made up to see the top boys having a go at the hardest routes in the country and I'm sure Ste Mac would be too!
I don't see too many 'idiots having a dig', maybe you see me as one of them. You still haven't answered the question above - do you consider E11's and E12 to be harder 'challenge' than all but the very hardest sport routes in the world. I don't argue with achievements I just don't understand the grading - after all aren't the 5 biggest unrepeated 'E10's' in the country those on some white rock climbed by a steely fingered Sheffield resident!
I wasnt aware anyone had asked me that question. My honest answer to it is that I havent a clue. How can you reasonably compare two completely different things (neither of which I have any experience of). I might as well ask you which is harder, winning a snooker tournament or a F1 motor race?
For all the player haters out there, just rememeber that James did equilibrium in 3 sessions when he wasn't climbing very well.
Also can we introduce new terminology for highballing above 150 pads, I really don't see how this is more ethical than say a top rope
Quote from: Jim on November 25, 2008, 09:17:17 pmAlso can we introduce new terminology for highballing above 150 pads, I really don't see how this is more ethical than say a top ropeIsn't it pad pointing? Or is that prerehearsed? Padballing?
Without being down on anyone else's achievements, would it be true to say that this is the most impressive grit tick list ever? Despite not doing Equilibrium, or the top move on James' version of The Groove, I still think that this was incredible. Repeating cutting edge routes, flashing at the limit, and soloing London Wall.