yetix said:I edited between your response, see above for a vid of Matt Fultz.
Edit again
Also I'm sure a Japanese climber tried using heels etc to not have to do the rose but instead match etc but I can't find a vid right now, if the rose was super easy why would people opt for that?
I do think off the wagon is the best suggestion yet though personally.
Ryuichi Morai https://www.instagram.com/p/B5cKVOcjUGC/
Giuliano Cameroni was also trying a pretty different sequence on the low for a while, going to some filth in the break rather than doing the big throw and rose move.