Video rigs

[jfdm]

Re: Video ri

Last summer went on a teachers course at Tate to do with video and we created some work on old 16mm cine with b/w film.
....Blacks came out really black and lovely scratches/artifacts created during the developing stage.

Bring back nitrate film! Okay, it may have been highly unstable, prone to igniting, and virtually impossible to extinguish (keeps burning under water or without air) but it produced gorgeous results that seem never to have been matched. Luminous white skin contrasting with lustrous black; the actresses from that period almost glow with an inner pale fire - surely that's worth a few incinerated cinemas!?

Maybe back in the day, but not with the film of today.
Kodak frequently asked questions discusses combustion. :coffee:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/Support/Technical_Information/Frequently_Asked_Questions/default.htm
I think there is a greater chance of laptop/phone frying under strain than the film going up in smoke. Samsung/Dreamliner batteries frying seem a lot more problematic.
Talking 16mm/35mm film, Kodak stopped making cine, things looked very bleak, price of cine film went through roof. Kodak have revived making it, so price now dropped but still expensive. Only a few places in uk that process film but it is cheaper and pretty straightforward to DIY it. Hardware realitvely inexpensive on eBay.
Film makers on course pleased that cine is still being made, as you point out film characteristics are unique and valued.
Thinking back to summer think we also used and developed 35mm film. Although toasty in London there was no acts of film catching fire.
Have a great weekend everybody and thanks for all your help over the last few days.

 

[moose]

Maybe back in the day, but not with the film of today.
Kodak frequently asked questions discusses combustion. :coffee:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/Support/Technical_Information/Frequently_Asked_Questions/default.htm
I think there is a greater chance of laptop frying under strain than the film going up in smoke. Samsung/Dreamliner batteries frying seem a lot more problematic.
great weekend everybody and thanks for all your help over the last few days.

That's was my (slightly fatuous) point - I do not disagree that the "film of today" is less risky than a laptop battery. I just find it a bit rum that the current "state of the art" looks inferior to the old-school, given a century of "progress".

 

[DubDom]

https://m.dpreview.com/news/2932280772/ces-2017-hands-on-with-kodak-super-8

 

[dave]

Didn't kodak phase out cellulose nitrate based film in like the 1910-1920s?

 

[moose]

Nitrate was used until around 1950 - Kodak didn't introduce the alternative celluolose acetate until 1948.

 

[DubDom]

http://www.filmlabs.org/index.php/site/home/