UKC Simpson statement

[The Red Barrack]

Cant believe ukc have done an article on this... bunch of chimps.

I think you're being a bit unfair on UKC here. They took a position because, at the time, there was no evidence to suggest that Simpson had climbed x,y,z, despite a reasonably concerted effort to find some. This seems perfectly reasonable to me. How can you form a view on something with no evidence to support it (unless you are of a religious persuasion of cause)? Subsequently evidence has come to light which suggests Simpson did climb x or y, or z or ... well you get the idea. This doesn't make UKC a 'bunch of chimps' it just means there is evidence which wasn't available to them at the time.

 

[Doylo]

UKC have done nothing wrong. Simpson has completely brought it on himself.

 

[SA Chris]

Assuming the guy is a teacher I am more concerned with his grammar than anything else.

Why what happened to her?

 

[Sloper]

Sorry old things but I can't consider this as in anyway cedible evidence.

Ru, would you advise go to a fast track hearing on liability on the basis of the above?

 

[mrjonathanr]

Sorry old things but I can't consider this as in anyway cedible evidence.

There isn't credible evidence at any point in the discussion that's taken place. People just listen to a range of observations and make up their minds to varying degrees of confidence giving greater weight to some points of view than others, depending on perceived level of insight.

What's the word for that? Circumstantial ? Normal ?

 

[Bonjoy]

Either the guy is credible or he isn't. Thankfully there is a very easy way for him to prove if he is, absolutely and without a shred of doubt.

 

[mark s]

Assuming the guy is a teacher I am more concerned with his grammar than anything else.

Why what happened to her?

haha

a few proved ascents will not prove all the other stuff he claimed.
i still think his name should be wiped from the climbing records.
ive noticed he's still on moon website,you would have thought they would also cut any ties with him as his other sponsers did

 

[mrjonathanr]

Assuming the guy is a teacher I am more concerned with his grammar than anything else.

Yeah you just can't get the staff these days. :wave: Happy Xmas old bean.

I'm quite interested in Rupert's brain exam thingy. Will that be a credible alternative to coursework?

 

[GraemeA]

:wave: Happy Xmas old bean.

And to you.

Anyway it will all get sorted out soon. Jens has been in contact with RS and will soon publish a complete load of codswallop that will not only prove RS has done all sorts of stuff that he hasn't even claimed but also that UKC is actually run by robots controlled by Ben Heason and it's all a massive conspiracy.

 

[mark s]

Either the guy is credible or he isn't. Thankfully there is a very easy way for him to prove if he is, absolutely and without a shred of doubt.

Brain exam? Mind meld?

This chap says he has the videos of Rich doing Careless and Liquid Ambar. I for one would take his word for it regards Hubble if I saw the video of LA. I think few would argue that this proved his credibility. Given that it is such a simple matter for him to do this I see no reason to take anything he says as credible until such time as the videos are shown. I believe the videos are in a non digital format, but there is no need for a complex re-formatting, a phone video of it playing on a screen will be fine.
Now I’m not a betting man but I’m willing to put a £50 bet on with any RS true believer that these videos will for some reason never materialise. Any takers?

i think your money is as safe as houses there jon
these videos would have appeared long ago.
i was expecting rs to be in the bbc sports personallity final 10 this year

 

[Nibile]

it's good to have positive news.
anyway, I agree with DOylo. Rich called for trouble and got it. strange guy indeed: if I had climbed those routes, I'd tattoo myself "I climb 9a" on my forehaead, and would fit the subject into any conversation.
"hey have you heard Mark's new car broke down?"
"oh yes, by the way, the day I climbed Action Direct all the cars in the parking seemed fine".

 

[SA Chris]

Either the guy is credible or he isn't. Thankfully there is a very easy way for him to prove if he is, absolutely and without a shred of doubt.

Brain exam? Mind meld?

Lie detector or torture I think.

 

[Jim]

one thing that is clear is that rich was a monster as seen in doyles vid of him doing pinky perky in the school.
He clearly was capable of doing these routes/problems but wether he did them I remain unconvinced for various reasons including promised vid of careless, belayer on zone, 4 minute mile, marathon irregularities etc...
If he did do them then its a great shame as IMO it would be something to be very proud of, I believe he had it on his number plate on his car?
why not just release the vids etc...
Maybe its something to do with the whole heason scandle.
Its good to see that ben is cranking fairly hard and putting a few vids up, would be great if rich did the same and proved that he is not a liar as he obviously has put a lot of time and effort into climbing and for it to all end like this is a real shame

 

[Doylo]

This is a misunderstanding, its Simpsons footage

 

[Doylo]

Sorry old things but I can't consider this as in anyway cedible evidence.

You would say that

 

[Jim]

Maybe its something to do with the whole heason scandle.
Its good to see that ben is cranking fairly hard and putting a few vids up, would be great if rich did the same

sorry, this is worded wrong, didn't mean I believed the stuff Ben did, i didn't, just good he got back into climbing.

 

[mrjonathanr]

?? You don't believe BH did the routes he claimed (maybe I read that wrong)?
Anyway.
I'm very much against casually damning RS with just a bit of vague information but you should note that vid does not show a link of Peky Pinky. It's edited.

 

[Jim]

No I don't believe the routes he claimed.
I didn't realise that pinky perky footage was edited, long time since I've seen it.
He was still strong as fuck anyway, that much I'm sure people aren't disputing

 

[roddersm]

I thought the Pinky Perky and other school room stuff was actual footage of him climbing the stuff and only the Action Direct "ascent" was edited? Doyle did you say that the school room footage wasn't taken by you or have I misread this?

 

[GCW]

Perky Pinky