UK men who have recently climbed 8c or harder

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Not convinced 'men who've recently climbed 8b+' is the equivalent of 'women who've recently climbed 8a'. I understand why the suggestion - both are 4 levels below the current max sport grade for UK men & women - but shouldn't a large difference in the number of participants between men and women also have some bearing on expectation level? i.e. wouldn't 'average benchmarks' be expected to be slightly higher in a much larger pool of participants. 8c?

Somebody with real data/stats backgrounds please correct me as I have none
 
petejh said:
Somebody with real data/stats backgrounds please correct me as I have none

Isn't that the precise point of this thread? Even if it ends up with 100+ men who've climbed 8b+, we'll see how many have climbed 8c. 44 women have climbed 8a, so far the 8b+ list for men doesn't seem to be that much longer.
 
willackers said:
Freeman Brothers
George Carmichael
Eddie Barbour
Niall McNair
Robbie Phillips

Do you have routes for these guys? I've got George as doing Mecca and Jon as doing Bat Route, is that correct? I'm guessing Bellavista for Robbie?
 
Teaboy said:
willackers said:
Freeman Brothers
George Carmichael
Eddie Barbour
Niall McNair
Robbie Phillips

Do you have routes for these guys? I've got George as doing Mecca and Jon as doing Bat Route, is that correct? I'm guessing Bellavista for Robbie?

Eddies done Migranya Profunda at Siurana most recently according to 8spray (as well as a few others) and Jons done a few 8cs on UKC
 
T_B said:
petejh said:
Somebody with real data/stats backgrounds please correct me as I have none

Isn't that the precise point of this thread? Even if it ends up with 100+ men who've climbed 8b+, we'll see how many have climbed 8c. 44 women have climbed 8a, so far the 8b+ list for men doesn't seem to be that much longer.

I guess so yeah. (although you'd get that from a 7a and above list too..)
 
didn't pete whittacker do kaabah recently

does doing the grade on trad gear count? i.e. Tom R cobra crack/century crack
 
Ben Heason - 32, Darwin
Pete Dawson - various
Will Smith - various
Ben Davison - various

Ethan's not done Hajj
 
9a & beyond
Steve Mcclure, Batman, 9a/+, Malham
Tom Bolger, Cuidad de dios, 9a/+, Era Vella

Stevie Haston, Descente Lolitta, Grotte de Sabat (reported 8th June 2010, so just within the 5 year limit)
Alex Barrows, Era Vella, Margalef
Jordan Buys, Rainshadow, Malham
Ben Moon, Rainshadow, Malham
Malc Smith, Hunger, Anvil
James McHaffie, Big Bang, LPT
Paul Smitton, Dogs Dinner traverse, 9a (Within the last 5 years?)

Dave Macleod, Fight the Feeling, 8c+/9a, Steall Hut Crag
James Pearson, Escalatamàsters, 8c+/9a, Perles
Ryan Pasquill, Stevolution, Tor & Jungle Speed, Suirana, both 8c+/9a
Stew Watson, Mordor, 8c+/9a, Niederthai, Austria

8c+
Gaz Parry, Supersonico, Costa Blanca
Tim Palmer, Progress, Kilnsey
Chris Savage, Progress, Kilnsey
Pete Robins, Diamond Dogs, Diamond
Neil Dyer, Megaloupa, LPT
Oli Grounsell , Megaloupa, LPT
Pete Whittaker, Kaa’bah, Tor
Ted Kingsnorth, Kaa’bah, Tor
Ethan Walker, Kaa’bah, Tor
Ellis Butler-Barker, Brian, Ansteys Cove
Wiz Fineron, Mr Hyde, Ceuse
Alan Cassidy, Metalcore, Anvil
Ben Davison, Eye of Odin, Flatanger
Will Smith, ultimate sacrifice, Gorge du loup

Neil Mawson, Raining Bats and Dogs, 8c/+, Malham

8c
Neil Gresham, Welcome to Tijuana, Rodellar
Paul Reeve, Cry Freedom, Malham
Robbie Phillips, Especio Tempo, Costa Blanca
Tom Newberry, Deathstar, Cheddar
Tom Randall, Cobra Crack, Squamish
Ben Bransby, The Beast, Diamond
Jon Clark, Mecca Ext, Tor
Matt Donnelly, Mecca Ext, Tor
Stuart Littlefair, Mecca Ext, Tor
Dave McLoughlin, Hajj, Tor
John Maskell, Fisheye, Oliana
Bob Hickish, Endeavor, Dorset
Robin Sutton, Bat Route, Malham
Buster Martin, Bat Route, Malham
Jon Freeman, Bat Shadow, Malham
Adam Jeeworth, Bat Route, Malham
Richard Waterton, Bat Route, Malham
Adam Harrison, Bat Route, Malham
Sam Whittaker, Bat Route, Malham
Sam Hamer, Welcome to Tijuana, Rodellar
William Bosi, Transform, Malham
Steve Dunning, Cry of freedom, Malham
Adam Jeffs, Cry of freedom, Malham
Mike Grey, True north, Kilnsey
Rob Napier, Bat Route, Malham

Ben West, Helvetia, 8b+/c, Shipwreck Cove
Jim Pope, Helvetia, 8b+/c, Shipwreck Cove
Bruno Marks, Unjustified, 8b+/c, Malham
Dan Walker, Unjustified, 8b+/c, Malham
Anthony Ingham, Unjustified, 8b+/c, Malham
Arran Deakin, Unjustified, 8b+/c, Malham


8b+
Nial McNair??
Eddie Barbour, Transworld Depravity, RRG
Adam Lincoln, Dr Crimp, Kilnsey
Theo Elmer, Mecca, Tor
Will Kelsall, 32, Cheedale Cornice
Ally Smith, Aspid, Spain
Ru Davis, 32, Cheedale Cornice
Haydn Jones, Mecca, Tor
Ed Hamer, ?
Luke Dawson, Mecca, Tor
Simon Davis, Mecca, Tor
George Carmicheal, Mecca, Tor
Keefe Murphy, El Club de la Lucha
Cailean Harker, Poppy, Ansteys
Gavin Symonds, Poppy, Ansteys
Chris Doyle, Raiders of the Dark Art, North Wales
Dave Barrans, Indian Summer, Kilnsey
Mick Bate, Mecca, Tor
Dan Kyte, Mecca, Tor
Ben Heason, 32, Cheedale Cornice

Dave from Liverpool, Mecca (if you mean Pinnington, I don’t think he did it in the end, though he did succeed on Staminband)
 
good work Ally, Emma is most certainly a woman however.

Ed hamer has climbed welcome to tijuana, 8c I believe

Will Smith has climbed ultimate sacrifice, 8c+ in Gorge du loup as well if you're putting people in grade categories.
 
Well spotted - I've edited the post above for accuracy (I'd already made a start on a list of all UK ascents >8c before this thread started.)

Anymore?

Cumbrian and Northern Irish Dark Horses?
 
Ally Smith said:
Stevie Haston, Descente Lolitta, Grotte de Sabat (reported 8th June 2010, so just within the 5 year limit)

Three weeks outside it if we're being precise. ;)
 
I do love a good list.

Unjustified is 8b+ not slash grade, lets not drag that out anymore.

Sam whit has done bat route.

Has sam hamer done 8c? i dont know him but not seen it mentioned before.
 
Sam hasn't AFAIK. Ed is the one who did welcome to Tijuana.

Jon freeman hasn't done bat shadow but has done bats n digs as has Joe cook
 

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