Will Hunt said:I love the breadth of opinions here. Schubert can do any route in the world, but he's still going to get shut down by an 8c slice of Peak choss.
petejh said:I want to agree with this, as I instinctively want to disagree with Stone's implication that there are 8c's in the peak that truly world-class 9c wads couldn't do (or would struggle for ages on). But wasn't the 9b+ version of Sharma once quoted: 'I'll never be able to do Mutation'? I know it's not 'full number grade' difference... but if Stone's 8c examples were sandbagged and are really 8c+ then it isn't that far off.
Bradders said:Can't be many people who've climbed an 8C at 14 years old?
petejh said:I want to agree with this, as I instinctively want to disagree with Stone's implication that there are 8c's in the peak that truly world-class 9c wads couldn't do (or would struggle for ages on). But wasn't the 9b+ version of Sharma once quoted: 'I'll never be able to do Mutation'? I know it's not 'full number grade' difference... but if Stone's 8c examples were sandbagged and are really 8c+ then it isn't that far off.
stone said:Somehow Super is a lot weirder than Mutation though isn't it? Mutation is pulling through steep ground on little crimps then a wild burly move, then a precarious vertical finish. Somehow Super is blank vertical limestone all the way. The grading isn't amongst other benchmark routes of that style is it?
stone said:Perhaps Somehow Super would be path for the top people. I'd still be more in awe watching them path it than any other route I know of.