RIP

[sherlock]

Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.

And on the subject of historians, I'd missed this which surely deserves a mention on a climbing site
https://www.climbing.com/people/remembering-audrey-salkeld/?utm_campaign=CLM+-+NL&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=279829790&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--N5PFSLZrbuulSDkmP7GWhnhMSaFlY4xgFGKz-I1wN0QkvaLpzW-S7hXVQ3fu69gZifM1ulDEaAcyA512sxUox7BQRvw&utm_content=279829790&utm_source=hs_email

 

[mrjonathanr]

Audrey Salkeld was a name I heard- or more accurately, read- many times when I was younger.

 

[andy popp]

Historian Natalie Zemon Davis at age 94. NZD was one of the single most important and influential historians of the last sixty years. I know this probably seems very niche but if you've seen the 80s film The Return of Martin Guerre then you've been exposed to her work (though, interestingly, her well-known book of the same name actually came out after the film), A enormous loss to my profession.

And on the subject of historians, I'd missed this which surely deserves a mention on a climbing site
https://www.climbing.com/people/remembering-audrey-salkeld/?utm_campaign=CLM+-+NL&utm_medium=email&_hsmi=279829790&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--N5PFSLZrbuulSDkmP7GWhnhMSaFlY4xgFGKz-I1wN0QkvaLpzW-S7hXVQ3fu69gZifM1ulDEaAcyA512sxUox7BQRvw&utm_content=279829790&utm_source=hs_email

Oh yes, absolutely. I saw the announcement a couple of days ago and never thought to post, for unknown reasons. I was reading articles by Audrey Salkeld in Crags and Mountain from when I first began climbing in the late 70s. No doubt I I owe much of my slightly ridiculously deep climbing history knowledge to her.

 

[andy popp]

And reading on, I see that she moved to and raised her family in Clevedon (Somerset), which is where I grew up. I never knew, though I suppose it's possible we literally passed in the street.

 

[Falling Down]

It’s a great obit by Ed. I too used to read a lot of her articles even though I’ve never been a mountaineer.

 

[Kingy]

Matthew Perry

 

[SamT]

54!!!.

The number of 50 somethings on this thread is depressing.

Just turned 51. Seems like I've just walked round the corner into snipers alley.. :unsure:

 

[sherlock]

54!!!.

The number of 50 somethings on this thread is depressing.

Just turned 51. Seems like I've just walked round the corner into snipers alley.. :unsure:

Wait till you're in your sixties!
It gets really scary....

 

[SamT]

Yeah.. I typed that this morning without thinking that it's likely that a lot of folk on here are older than me! :-[

 

[Paul B]

54!!!.

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.

 

[Oldmanmatt]

54!!!.

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.

Drowning, apparently.
A habit for intoxication and a villa with a pool. Bad combo.
A year older than me.

 

[andy popp]

Wait till you're in your sixties!

Just under three months away for me ...

 

[Dingdong]

54!!!.

He's had massive problems with addiction throughout his life. I can't imagine this doing wonders for your body.

Drowning, apparently.
A habit for intoxication and a villa with a pool. Bad combo.
A year older than me.

You can faint quite easy standing up if you’ve been in a jacuzzi, there’s loads of places that will only let you go in one if you have someone with you for this reason - best not to make any assumptions before an official statement is released by the coroners

 

[sherlock]

Shane McGowan, Pogues. 65.
Alistair Darling, 70
Henry Kissinger 100.
There's a queue at the Pearly Gates today.Or maybe not.....

 

[jwi]

I almost heard Shane MacGowan sing live in ... eh ... 1990, just after the release of "Hell's Ditch". With three friends I had taken a flight to Stockholm to see The Pouges at 'Hovet' (mostly thanks to the strength of 'If I Should Fall from Grace with God'). The Pouges played, but MacGowan was nowhere to be seen. Spider Stacy sung. The audience chanted "we want Shane, we want Shane".Stacy screamed "fuck Shane" every now and then. (Don't quote me on this, Stacey might have screamed something else, the audience might have chanted something else. It was a long time ago. My English was intermediate.) After about half of the playlist MacGowan showed up, leaned silently against the microphone stand interspersed with sitting on the drum riser. The band played some music. MacGowan remained silent. After a while he left. The band played a few more songs.

 

[MarkJ]

Henry Kissinger 100.
There's a queue at the Pearly Gates today.Or maybe not.....

Hopefully he's been sent to the downstairs place.

 

[mrjonathanr]

Let’s hope Kissinger doesn’t run into too many South Americans wherever he goes, he may not be received warmly.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/30/henry-kissinger-chile-argentina-south-america

 

[MarkJ]

.. or anyone from Vietnam, Cambodia, East Timor in Indonesia, or Greece.

 

[JamieG]

Henry Kissinger 100.
There's a queue at the Pearly Gates today.Or maybe not.....

Hopefully he's been sent to the downstairs place.

In my house that is where the board lives . . . is that heaven or hell?

 

[Dingdong]

https://youtu.be/eyj8uKiSX6E?si=LI9m7SGVXjjHLCOU