poll: Dead Fit Birds Who Go Climbing.

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Given that the DFBWGC thread causes hassle for the UKB owners, the best action is:

  • Leave it alone; it's a core part of UKB, the loss of DFBWGC will impair the quality of my life

    Votes: 57 57.0%
  • Leave it but moderate it more strictly – perhaps images only

    Votes: 14 14.0%
  • I’m bored of it - it's past its sell-by date - get rid

    Votes: 6 6.0%
  • Do whatever; I don't care either way

    Votes: 21 21.0%
  • I never liked it

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    100
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butters said:
As far as I am concerned it was out of order to cc someone else into what was a private request - I can see no motive other than spite to cc someone in - having worked in an office long enough it doesn't surprise me at all to see it done but then neither does it condone the action.

Exactly. I wonder what P o D himself would make this PC kneejerk reaction.

PoD as a company has just gone down in my estimation, and Mick has gone down even further than he was. What an embarrarrasing mess.
 
SA Chris said:
butters said:
As far as I am concerned it was out of order to cc someone else into what was a private request - I can see no motive other than spite to cc someone in - having worked in an office long enough it doesn't surprise me at all to see it done but then neither does it condone the action.

Exactly.

:agree: :wank:
 
thesiger said:
We have already been asked to delete the correspondence that Iesu has posted. Frankly it is a tough call whether to comply with that or whether we need to publish everything we have received in connection with this ...

As far as I can see UKC have shown a gobsmacking lack of professionalism towards you by underhandedly involving your advertisers in a private matter, so I don't see why you should respect their request to remove these posts.

I think you're behaving expectionally well considering they have actually lost you advertising income. I can't imagine Mick being so level headed if the situation were reversed...
 
:eek:ff:

Come you lot, this DFBWGC - start posting some T and A :)

Off course, as soon as I hit "Post" I realised that this is the "poll:DFBWGC".

Can I punter myself? :)
 
This is absolutely ridiculous.

As usual MR takes the stance of "emperor of the internet" deviously playing people against each other, manipulating threads so to make it look as if people are saying things they aren't and generally and "controlling" things for his own ends ;) (remember his "...it's all panned out as I planned it...." email to GCW? This is obviously how he sees himself).

Then when someone makes a joke about him or calls him a name he goes crying to mummy Alan like a three year old.

I agree that UKC should have distanced themselves as a company from what is purely a personal matter and I also agree with everything that's been posted above regarding advertisers / ccing etc. The level of childish pettiness that they are sinking to would be laughable if it wasn't costing UKB's owners money.

Since the IOs took over and pointed out that calling MR a c*** was causing them grief, it's stopped. What more do these cunts want? <<<<< YES THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IRONIC

[quote author=Alan James]We haven't asked them to do anything else and haven't tried to influence them in any other way and further more, we wouldn't want to ever do that.[/quote]

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I have to say that Nikki has demonstrated the power of advertising- I will NEVER be buying any POD kit again.

The problem for UKC is that Mick uses his UKC address to send angry/threatening e-mails out. As such he is expressing the opinion of UKC, and it demonstrates that UKC use a bullying approach (yes, it may only be one person but the use of the company address is the important factor).

Can you not install a filter so whenever someone posts "Mick is a cunt" it automatically adds "in my opinion"? Sorted! It wouldn't take long to modify all the old comments either.

Jas, I was going to quote some of the juicy bits from old UKC e-mails to me, but I'd hate for them to contact the Overlords and ask them to delete it- it would cause too much hassle.
 
GCW said:
I have to say that Nikki has demonstrated the power of advertising- I will NEVER be buying any POD kit again.

That would seem a bit of an over reaction to me. Although it seems that Nikki has been played by Mick, for his own spiteful ends, if she looked through the site and found content (be it DFBWGC, swearing or something else) that she considered offensive, then I can understand why she may want to withdraw advertising on the site. I would see it as a reasonable ethical call in a grey area and, whether I agree with that call or not, it would not affect my decision to buy POD stuff.
 
Aren't those the type of things that should be taken into consideration BEFORE advertising? Its not as if they're hidden away.
 
Of course, but they obviously hadn't been seen had they. Are people not allowed to change their minds when they find out something new?
 
I have been out climbing this morning and ticked an 8a YYFY and just come back to this NNFN.

Toby and I hold no grudge against Nikki or Podsacs whatsoever and UKB users shouldn't either.

They are entirely at liberty to choose where there adverts should go and on whatever basis. Most importantly their products are good. The only person whio has acted in an improper manner is Mick Ryan and subsequently Alan with his stock email diverting blame onto Nikki/Podsacs. There is absolutely no reason for Nikki/Podsacs being embroiled in this shitfest of UKC's making which was no doubt an additional reason for them wanting to withdraw the advert. Furthermore they paid for the full four weeks they initially booked.
 
shark said:
This is the same Mick Ryan who was quite happy to go on the 8a.nu website and call Jens Larsen its owner a wanker.

On a basic definition of the word, this is most likely correct. Who doesn't? :wank:
 
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my god, what is the internet coming to?
 
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