British men who have climbed >= E9 and british women who have climbed >= E7

[Stabbsy]

Didn’t Birkett repeat To Hell and Back on Hells Lum (E10)? Got a feeling he was a bit dismissive of the grade though.

 

[JackPal]

Pope has done a couple.

 

[Wil]

Katy Whittaker with Gaia and Knocking' on Heaven' Door (E8).
Katy Forrester with De Quincy (E7).

 

[reeve]

Katy Whit - Gaia, Master's edge
Naomi Buys - something at Hawkcliffe (Birdsong?), maybe others
Lucy Creamer - loads surely? Slab and crack at curbar as maybe hardest at a guess
Katherine Schirrmacher - balance it is

All suggested by Marie, I can't take the credit

 

[JackPal]

Andy Earl?

 

[Will Hunt]

One confirmed E9 doesn't confirm an E11
I know of at least 2 routes which have been downgraded by people who actually bothered to climb on other rock types and routes.

I've never really understood your beef with him. People get FA grades wrong all the time. Even if Nothing Lasts isn't E11, it's probably still E10. And even if it isn't, confirmed E9 does get you onto Remus' list, which is the only thing that matters in this context.

I'm not out to be a cheerleader for Franco. He's made some hefty mistakes along the way (I don't consider getting an FA one grade out to be a hefty mistake), but he's also been instrumental in developing and pushing standards in a significant UK climbing area, including doing the documentation. That deserves a lot of credit.

It might bother you that he's different and hasn't followed the approved path through climbing, but that doesn't mean that his FA's are all piss.

 

[Steve Crowe]

Karin has onsighted loads of E6's and some E7's. She was never that keen for serious head pointing but did do some. She wrote a short summery last year for someone and expanded it a little more for my website.

https://climbonline.co.uk/2020/05/02/climbing-is-my-passion-by-karin-magog/

 

[Steve Crowe]

Many of Andy Earl's achievements are listed on my website here.

https://climbonline.co.uk/2020/05/05/andy-earl-on-top-of-the-world/

 

[Andy F]

One confirmed E9 doesn't confirm an E11
I know of at least 2 routes which have been downgraded by people who actually bothered to climb on other rock types and routes.

In the context of this list, being E9 and confirmed repeat, Cookson should be in.

 

[Jonathan Platt]

Leo Holding ?

 

[Andy F]

One confirmed E9 doesn't confirm an E11
I know of at least 2 routes which have been downgraded by people who actually bothered to climb on other rock types and routes.

I've never really understood your beef with him. People get FA grades wrong all the time. Even if Nothing Lasts isn't E11, it's probably still E10. And even if it isn't, confirmed E9 does get you onto Remus' list, which is the only thing that matters in this context.

I'm not out to be a cheerleader for Franco. He's made some hefty mistakes along the way (I don't consider getting an FA one grade out to be a hefty mistake), but he's also been instrumental in developing and pushing standards in a significant UK climbing area, including doing the documentation. That deserves a lot of credit.

It might bother you that he's different and hasn't followed the approved path through climbing, but that doesn't mean that his FA's are all piss.

He did make big grade mistakes and you do come across as his cheerleader Will (sorry, but it's true)

I'm not knocking his development of a previous backwater, I've always questioned his yardstick. Think Edwards, O'Connor and further away Fred Rouhling.

But this takes away from an otherwise excellent thread.

 

[remus]

Just to clarify, I'm trying to keep the list focused on people who have done E9/E7 or harder, not listing out every single ascent. A couple of ascents per person is enough for my liking (preferably on stuff that's established at the grade).

Fair enough, but Nick Dixon deserves more than one route next to his name.

Agreed, Nick's a total legend! Added his FAs of thousand setting suns and gribin wall climb.

Thanks for all the suggestions for the women, I've added them all in (other than Naomi B, anyone got anything specific?)

 

[reeve]

Possibly unpopular opinion; is Unfamiliar E7 with pads?

Having tried it (but not done it!) I think this is better classified as a highball with some gear for the top, assuming you use pads.

Another one for debate: Robin Barker and Sean Myles for Captain Invincable at Burbage South. I know it was originally E8 but given the lack of repeats, TRandall thought it was E9 (I belayed him and he was huffing and puffing), and it's another one I haven't done but have tried (on TR, couldn't do some of the moves after s couple of visits), I think F8b was bandied about, surely it's E9?

 

[reeve]

Thanks for all the suggestions for the women, I've added them all in (other than Naomi B, anyone got anything specific?)

Three in a week for Naomi a few years back
https://www.ukclimbing.com/news/2014/05/three_e7s_in_a_week_for_naomi_buys-68911

 

[remus]

Possibly unpopular opinion; is Unfamiliar E7 with pads?

Having tried it (but not done it!) I think this is better classified as a highball with some gear for the top, assuming you use pads.

Another one for debate: Robin Barker and Sean Myles for Captain Invincable at Burbage South. I know it was originally E8 but given the lack of repeats, TRandall thought it was E9 (I belayed him and he was huffing and puffing), and it's another one I haven't done but have tried (on TR, couldn't do some of the moves after s couple of visits), I think F8b was bandied about, surely it's E9?

On a similar theme I wonder whether Marbellous at Stanage is due a bump to E9? I guess Bransby must have put a bit of time in (on the quest to tick stanage) and he's no punter.

 

[Andy F]

Is Heartbeat City at Rylstone still thought to be E8? It'd be nice if Dave Pegg made the list.

 

[reeve]

On a similar theme I wonder whether Marbellous at Stanage is due a bump to E9? I guess Bransby must have put a bit of time in (on the quest to tick stanage) and he's no punter.

Ah, you've reminded me of John Welford doing Mother of Pearl; if we're considering Marbellous for E9, the MoP must be

 

[Will Hunt]

Is Heartbeat City at Rylstone still thought to be E8? It'd be nice if Dave Pegg made the list.

Still E8. Never heard any differing opinion aside from the obvious that it's a complete horrorshow.

 

[turnipturned]

Is Heartbeat City at Rylstone still thought to be E8? It'd be nice if Dave Pegg made the list.

Still E8. Never heard any differing opinion aside from the obvious that it's a complete horrorshow.

I heard a pebble snapped or something! Which does add to the terror!

 

[andy popp]

It'd be nice if Dave Pegg made the list.

MaDMAn is any case an utter nightmare and well worth E8.