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El Mocho said:
Dark Energy is the best sport route in the UK.

That's not an opinion, it's a statement of fact.

Be the best in the world if most the holds weren’t like butter most the summer, the top was dry more than 2.8% of the time and without the new seal ban in September when it’s finally climbable . Is like a piece of world class art that they only put on display 5 days a year .
 
You also forgot the awkward climb-down to the beach.. where rungs were put in to make it easier but stupid tourists broke their ankle falling off so the council made us remove.

Could be worse though, it could be on the Diamond.
 
Doylo said:
El Mocho said:
Dark Energy is the best sport route in the UK.

That's not an opinion, it's a statement of fact.

Be the best in the world if most the holds weren’t like butter most the summer, the top was dry more than 2.8% of the time and without the new seal ban in September when it’s finally climbable . Is like a piece of world class art that they only put on display 5 days a year .

You also forgot the awkward climb-down to the beach.. where rungs were put in to make it easier but stupid tourists broke their ankle falling off so the council made us remove.

Could be worse though, it could be on the Diamond.

These are all things which make it better.
 
Err, what?!

I 'might' be being obtuse - I had to look it up (''annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand''). If so then I promise you I'm not being 'deliberately' obtuse. What am I (supposedly deliberately) not understanding here?
 
Basically what Stu said. Which is basically what I said. It's not disingenuous to say that people in Sheffield don't go try these things because of the faff, it's why Stu and me and Steve don't. Steve says plenty of disingenuous stuff but I don't think this is one of those things; I can assure you it's true for me; and I have no reason to disbelieve Stu. You may think that's pathetic but that's by the by, literally everything that's too much of a ballache is really "more of a ballache than the alternative that I chose instead" or whatever you phrased it as, making using that argument obtuse/redundant, I'd assumed deliberately/belligerently so since you usually seem more clever than that (take that for daming with faint praise ;) )
 
abarro81 said:
Basically what Stu said. Which is basically what I said. It's not disingenuous to say that people in Sheffield don't go try these things because of the faff, it's why Stu and me and Steve don't. Steve says plenty of disingenuous stuff but I don't think this is one of those things; I can assure you it's true for me; and I have no reason to disbelieve Stu. You may think that's pathetic but that's by the by, literally everything that's too much of a ballache is really "more of a ballache than the alternative that I chose instead" or whatever you phrased it as, making using that argument obtuse/redundant, I'd assumed deliberately/belligerently so since you usually seem more clever than that (take that for daming with faint praise ;) )

Weird direction this has taken. Remind me again where I said your lack of affection for spending time on the M56 was pathetic? It appears a nerve has been touched among you delicate flowers.

So really it's all too hard for you then :hug:. :fishing:
 
I've nothing much to add other than this four year-old quote from you, Pete

petejh said:
Top Spankings
The drive to the Tor to try Mecca. A round trip of 4.5 to 5hrs from Llandudno each time to try a proj at my limit. What had seemed like a good idea in spring 2016 turned into a total motivation-killer by autumn of 2017. On the first drive over of last autumn I found myself at half-way just after Knutsford asking myself what the fuck I was doing this for, wasting my time on the road. I sacked it all off there and then, turned the car around and went home to have a great day in the cave! One day hopefully I'll be back, when I'm stronger and can do it more quickly - the route that is, not the drive.. In the meantime I'm picking stuff local to me for proj's at my limit.

:kiss2:
 
petejh said:
abarro81 said:
Basically what Stu said. Which is basically what I said. It's not disingenuous to say that people in Sheffield don't go try these things because of the faff, it's why Stu and me and Steve don't. Steve says plenty of disingenuous stuff but I don't think this is one of those things; I can assure you it's true for me; and I have no reason to disbelieve Stu. You may think that's pathetic but that's by the by, literally everything that's too much of a ballache is really "more of a ballache than the alternative that I chose instead" or whatever you phrased it as, making using that argument obtuse/redundant, I'd assumed deliberately/belligerently so since you usually seem more clever than that (take that for daming with faint praise ;) )

Weird direction this has taken. Remind me again where I said your lack of affection for spending time on the M56 was pathetic? It appears a nerve has been touched among you delicate flowers.

So really it's all too hard for you then :hug:. :fishing:

Barrows hasn’t been back to LPT since he failed to do the moves on Walking Mussel.
 
Pussy.


reeve said:
I've nothing much to add other than this four year-old quote from you, Pete

petejh said:
Top Spankings
The drive to the Tor to try Mecca. A round trip of 4.5 to 5hrs from Llandudno each time to try a proj at my limit. What had seemed like a good idea in spring 2016 turned into a total motivation-killer by autumn of 2017. On the first drive over of last autumn I found myself at half-way just after Knutsford asking myself what the fuck I was doing this for, wasting my time on the road. I sacked it all off there and then, turned the car around and went home to have a great day in the cave! One day hopefully I'll be back, when I'm stronger and can do it more quickly - the route that is, not the drive.. In the meantime I'm picking stuff local to me for proj's at my limit.

:kiss2:

Haha! I'm not Ste Mac or it would have been a day hit (2 days for Barrows) :shrug:
(and I gave it two years.. Not two days!)
 
petejh said:
Pussy.


reeve said:
I've nothing much to add other than this four year-old quote from you, Pete

petejh said:
Top Spankings
The drive to the Tor to try Mecca. A round trip of 4.5 to 5hrs from Llandudno each time to try a proj at my limit. What had seemed like a good idea in spring 2016 turned into a total motivation-killer by autumn of 2017. On the first drive over of last autumn I found myself at half-way just after Knutsford asking myself what the fuck I was doing this for, wasting my time on the road. I sacked it all off there and then, turned the car around and went home to have a great day in the cave! One day hopefully I'll be back, when I'm stronger and can do it more quickly - the route that is, not the drive.. In the meantime I'm picking stuff local to me for proj's at my limit.

:kiss2:

In the internet age nothing is tomorrow’s chip paper .
 
Doylo said:
petejh said:
Pussy.


reeve said:
I've nothing much to add other than this four year-old quote from you, Pete

petejh said:
Top Spankings
The drive to the Tor to try Mecca. A round trip of 4.5 to 5hrs from Llandudno each time to try a proj at my limit. What had seemed like a good idea in spring 2016 turned into a total motivation-killer by autumn of 2017. On the first drive over of last autumn I found myself at half-way just after Knutsford asking myself what the fuck I was doing this for, wasting my time on the road. I sacked it all off there and then, turned the car around and went home to have a great day in the cave! One day hopefully I'll be back, when I'm stronger and can do it more quickly - the route that is, not the drive.. In the meantime I'm picking stuff local to me for proj's at my limit.

:kiss2:

In the internet age nothing is tomorrow’s chip paper .

"In the internet age nothing is tomorrow’s chip paper ."

That's brilliant :clap2:
 
Original P-Rob who knows a thing or two about climbing hard at LPT has always said its a fucking ball ache and he can see it from his house*.

And that Big Bang is an acquired taste; maybe another factor? Sure its hard, but is it good?

If you're going to climb hard though you do sometimes have to give yourself half a chance, let things line up, take the easier choice etc. Hence the justification for attending Raven Tor that I frequently wheel out; it is the closest crag with hard routes to my house.


*Read this ye pedant
 
Acquired taste maybe but also somewhat enforced as it’ll cut you to shreds unless you’re tiny. All the ascentionists have been able to stand on an egg without it cracking. Robins would have passed the test in 09/10 but dinner parties had resumed by the time he tried Big Bang.
 

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