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#25 Re: Which DVD?
October 15, 2007, 04:50:59 pm
Hmmmm good point, for the pure ascent I agree Crabstix way was more elegant but the Committed version had more "fun" to it.

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#26 Re: Which DVD?
October 15, 2007, 04:56:54 pm
The strong female appearances (Lord, Balance It Is, Angels Share etc) were good to see.  Katherine's beaming face  should warm even the stoniest of hearts.  

In terms of humour, the Dawes' quote near the end was genius.

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#27 Re: Which DVD?
October 15, 2007, 04:58:57 pm
yeah and Siobghan's (sp?) cussing after Katherine tops out.... a few moments of chuckling throughout. The wire pulling out on trauma was harrowing.

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#28 Re: Which DVD?
October 15, 2007, 08:05:29 pm
thought it was quite good. could have done without the pabay stuff and lord, i thought that was really boring, i know johnny thought that was really good tho. could have been a good 20 mins shorter, to save some footage for next one. overall i enjoyed it, and nothing bores me more than grown ups with ropes

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#29 Re: Which DVD?
October 15, 2007, 08:54:00 pm
I bizarrely quite enjoyed the Pabbay bit - just for the pulling massive bits of rock off, and general whimpering and grunting value. I once did a bit of pulling loose shitty rock off and whimpering in the days before I became slightly more sensible, and it reminded me of those rather intense feelings of panic and general questing on because your totally committed that I think the film makers were trying to convey to the viewers. Also Dave McLeod on Trauma - a not very wired ascent where he looked totally balls out and liked he could have 'dropped it' at any moment. I missed the first half, but enjoyed the second half a lot. I'm a normally a bit bored by climbing dvd's - I just find 'polished' ascents that seem to have become the norm just a little bit boring. I prefer my climbing footage to be more realistic and gritty, and thought Committed worked pretty well for this.

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#30 Re: Which DVD?
October 16, 2007, 09:42:35 am
Yeah, the Pabbay bit was the first footage I've scene to come close to capturing the sea-choss experience, especially the relief topping out, feeling like you've been swimming towards the surface and can suddenly breathe again. I daresay HXS may raise the bar on this mind.
Thought the best bit was Ben Cossey though. Shame we didn't get to see more though, the ease he did Simba's Pride with suggested much. Plus his mumbled banter was very entertaining.

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#31 Re: Which DVD?
October 16, 2007, 03:13:15 pm
I got my copy of King Lines and Committed in the post yesterday, and watched them both last night.

King Lines definately lives up to its hype, its really polished but at the same time manages to capture the actual ascents of things like es pontas really well.  the footage of the mt clark project is mind-blowing, the only kinda dull part is the climbing in venezuela, it seems like they put so much money into going there then when it rained they felt they had to use the footage anyway.  I didn't realise how much of a sharmafest it was going to be, it is all about sharma, it only has him climbing apart from brief clips of people who are climbing with him, and one part when they show pringle topping out on a buttermilk highball that sharma was too scared to do.  With any other climber this might get a bit dull, but sharma managed to pull it all together, it even has him doing trad.  If you like Sharma you'll love this movie. :thumbsup:

After watching King Lines first Committed definately felt amateurish in comparison, its got some good footage, i especially liked the E6 that Jude Spanken does in Wales.  But the over the top comentary was kinda wierd and i never really felt engrossed in the movie like i did with king lines.  The extra 'keen youth' is a cool insight into james' background and worth watching, but i'm a bit dissapointed there wasn't more extras considering the quality of the extras on E11.  Having said that, i'm glad i've got both of them, but if you had to pick one definately King Lines.

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#32 Re: Which DVD?
October 19, 2007, 09:48:16 am
I've not seen King Lines or Committed, but I have seen some of the UK sport climbing stuff on Psyche featuring Ste Mac. Now UK sport gets bad press from what I can see, very unfairly. Lines like Rainshadow, Northern Lights and Mutation are obviously sick hard, but are also very impressive. I think it's great that someone is documenting these and showing them in there full glory. Should be great when we get to see the full thing.

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#33 Re: Which DVD?
October 19, 2007, 12:00:37 pm
The Psyche trailer of Ste Mac on some thing at Raven Tor was very good for limestone, it actually made for an interesting clip.

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#34 Re: Which DVD?
October 24, 2007, 01:05:48 pm
My copy of King Lines arrived this morning, I just watched it with my lunch, it's awesome.  Pretty much a mix of what you get in First Ascent (which was slightly too documentary like for my liking) and what you expect from the dosage films (awesome action photography).

I always thought that the second dosage film made the Mallorca DWS look good - this film has just moved it right to the top of my holiday destination list.  Mt Clarke project looks like malham cove on crystal meth - absolutely outstanding.  The bishop bit is v short, but you get to see Sharma make King Tut and Evilution look about the same difficulty, and see that The Beautiful and Damned is not just a hard boulder problem into an easy topout - there's definitely some business to take care of around the 25 foot mark!  The Venezuala bit is not as good as the rest of the film, but there are some amazing looking problems, and the scenery shots make up for the lack of hardcore cranking.

Overall it's definitely a lot more chilled than the Dosages, with lots of 'to camera' bits by Chris talking about his motivation and his life, which could easily be boring or overindulgent if it was someone else, but with Sharma it works well.

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#35 Re: Which DVD?
October 24, 2007, 06:51:42 pm
Mt Clarke project looks like malham cove on crystal meth - absolutely outstanding. 
50 lbs underweight, teeth falling out and with a dvd player under one arm?

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#36 Re: Which DVD?
October 25, 2007, 08:17:40 pm
50 lbs underweight, teeth falling out and with a dvd player under one arm?
:lol:

I've not seen any of these recent offerings - need to get watching some.

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#37 Re: Which DVD?
October 26, 2007, 11:59:43 am
Being a true hustla I downloaded a copy of King Lines and have just finished watching it. I have now read through the comments on this thread and thought I'd add a couple of thoughts. The Venezuela bit was, for me, one of the best. This may come as a suprise to those who know me, because usually all I care about are seeing strong climbers climb hard things. However, atop that plateau in Venezuela there was something transcendental going on. They were somewhere incredible, they were faced with the reality we all face (rain and food rationing), and it was quite special I thought. The rock looked incredible, the journey to the rocks was incredible, and I didn't think this was a lowpoint of the DVD. Perhaps I'm just sick of going to roadside crags or the same old peak destinations. Maybe I'm only saying this because I'm currently seeking an adventure. Who knows, but I thought I'd provide an opposing opinion to the ones already on this thread.

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#38 Re: Which DVD?
October 26, 2007, 12:39:13 pm
Have you thought about trying to break the world altitude one arm pull-up record?

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#39 Re: Which DVD?
October 26, 2007, 01:00:04 pm
"That's not much of an adventure mate, more of an invention!"


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#40 Re: Which DVD?
October 26, 2007, 01:48:12 pm
After watcing it again I agree the tepui bit is pretty special - what did you think overall Uncle- worth dipping in your pocket for?  Copying kills creation you know  ;)

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#41 Re: Which DVD?
October 26, 2007, 01:59:10 pm
I thought it was a wonderful media expose for Chris Sharma (soon to be TM no doubt). The filming was slick, it was well editing, but it was a one man media fest. I don't have any problem with that, but I would still very much like to see climbing films with Andrada, Ramonet, Moon, Graham, Landman, Nicole, Zangerl, Koyomada, Hukkataival, Woods, Moroni, Calibani, Frigault, Vandeputte, Rouhling etc... I mean, what really got done in King Lines? Just the es pontas project. A DVD with Koyomada crushing a couple of 9a's, a whole host of 8B, 8B+, 8C blocs, and still being the most humble man in the world is more inspiring for me. Perhaps more inspiring isn't the right term, just inspiring in a very different way. Sharma is a crusher of epic proportions, but King Lines is a lifestyle DVD. Koyomada is also a crusher of epic proportions but his DVD's are climbing DVD's. Surely a combination of the two is possible and would be excellent.

Will I pay for a copy? I don't think so. I will probably get a proper DVD rip though...

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#42 Re: Which DVD?
October 26, 2007, 02:03:39 pm
Uncle you are clearly a frustrated mountaineer. Give into it boy, its society's crime, not ours.

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#43 Re: Which DVD?
October 28, 2007, 12:09:17 pm
having just seen both I'd try and get a hold of doyles films much better value imho

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#44 Re: Which DVD?
October 28, 2007, 05:38:33 pm
i just watched king lines, and it's no more on my pc...

it's nice, but in my opinion nothing more. it's not a climbing vid, it's a documentary about chris.

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#45 Re: Which DVD?
November 21, 2007, 09:18:20 pm
i agree with nibs here, but would like to add one more thing "it's fucking shit". how dare film makers get hold of one of the most talented climbers in the world and make the dvds cringeworthy to watch, time and time again.

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#46 Re: Which DVD?
November 22, 2007, 10:17:54 am
I think its becoming a generic problem in the industry of climbing films that they are now about people climbing rather than climbing itself  :shrug:

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#47 Re: Which DVD?
November 22, 2007, 10:33:25 am
Bingo!

Some time a comin' Moo, but you got there in the end.

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#48 Re: Which DVD?
November 22, 2007, 10:52:21 am
Like nature documentaries now being about the presenters and cameramen not the wildlife. Bizarre.

Not seen King Lines but it won Kendal so must have some merit? Does it have MC Hasta though?

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#49 Re: Which DVD?
November 22, 2007, 10:56:05 am
no, but the scally's have gone to more exotic locations. think they're on with titmarsh in a couple of wks. can't really get over how crap king lines actually is. marginally better on mute

 

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