[Jim]

Car figures are definitely on the conservative side from the dyno's of the remapped cars I've seen! Once you remap I will have no chance, but you always seem to ignore the fact your car cost 3 times what mine did... and it didn't come with heated mirrors, or an armrest, etc etc.... 

There's a good reason for it......

its 3 times the car 
mine now has heated mirrors and an armrest

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

mine now has heated mirrors and an armrest

be careful what you boast about Jim, my Volvo had an arm rest, and CLM gave me a flat cap when I first got it.
It'll be a factory fitted 'nice cup of cocoa and some carpet slippers' next.

[Jim]

can't beat a good pair of slippers. have you seen CLM in a flat cap? Its pure genius, he could really be a farmer

anyway

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400                           = £146
2048MB DDR2 533                                  = £130 ish although you can get ddr2 800 for the same money
500Gb SATA                                         = £126
256MB ATI Radeon X1300 PRO                 = £51
DVD-ROM Reader                                   = £10 but why?
DVD+/-RW Reader 16x Dual Drive              = £20
Sound Blaster Audigy                             = onboard

motherboard                                         = between £50 and £70 depending exactly what you want
cases                                                  = from £30 all with 350W+ most with 400W

about £560

[unclesomebody]

that's a pretty good price, but a case and PSU for £30 sounds very skanky to me. A decent PSU is atleast £30 on it's own. You forgot to add prices for fans, cables, etc. Anyhow, if we budget a lowly £40 for PSU + case the grand total is £593. Unfortunately, dell have that same spec for £517 including a legal copy of windows (who cares, i know) and a 1 year warranty. And for your information, 2 DVD drives is crucial, since you can copy on the fly which doubles efficiency...

3 times the car and it didn't come with standard features that mine did... ha ha ha...

Don't mess with the hulk Jim, you'll only get crushed.

[Johnny Brown]

I don't see a pc as good as mine from Dell though. £150 from Jim. And your car has never cruised me to font quite as well as either of Jim's. Suffice to say I'm rooting for Jim here; you;re dealing in rhetoric, Jim in reality. Welcome to Jim's world.

[cofe]

jim. where did you get your audi? jim.

forget heated mirrors. heated seats are where it's at.

[unclesomebody]

Rhetoric; from the greek for teacher. I guess you're living in Jim's world too JB?

 If people didn't know Jim and I were off on holiday together in a couple of weeks they could easily think we are sworn enemies.

[Jim]

a romantic holiday none the less! Still doesn't mean were not enemies tho

I really miss my heated seats, especially now I've got full leather 

[Jim]

How about an armwrestle?

[unclesomebody]

some one in the office just asked me "what are you laughing so hard about?"

[soapy]

and then they commented:


"..and why do you have an erection..?"

[Somebody's Fool]

I think you should both have £300 each to build/buy a computer of you choice. You then use CAD to do a complete schematic diagram of your car and engine.  Then get in your cars and race your entries to a judging panel comprised of university boffins. The final decision will factor in the speed of delivery (on a dry day of course).

I am happy to run a book.  Starting prices - Jim 5/4, Uncle 3/1.

[Jim]

I think uncle really needs to be looking here

[Jim]

ps sorry monolith for hijacking your thread but its really kept me going today

[unclesomebody]

Forgive him monolith, this forum is all he has.

Can't believe i'm the outsider, but I suppose it works out better for me because I win more when I place my entire life savings on myself to win (I would suggest the same Jim but all yours is sitting on your driveway)

[Jim]

you've always been an outsider

[Somebody's Fool]

I'd have had him down as more of an insider. 

[Monolith]

No forgiveness necessary boys. A wad point each for making me piss myself laughing. Think when it comes to the build I'll commission one of you two to do it. Probably have to decide by virtue of whichever one of you louts wins this dual thats been set up!

Uncle are you still alive dude? Have to hookup soon in some form.

[Monolith]

Man, I didn't realise these 19" widescreens had become so cheap. So which of the various suggested setups am I to trust? Jim have you won this argument, or have you Uncle?

[Jim]

depends what your after and what stuff you already have.

[Monolith]

stuff after- everything
stuff have - 300gb external hard drive

Really, I'd just like to know which of the setups will be the most future-proof inasmuch as one can be. Anything has to be better than the shelf-life of an ibook.

[unclesomebody]

One man finds gold, the other diamonds. Who has won?

But seriously, you can do this Monolith. Just spend (waste) some days researching what you're buying and you won't go wrong. You might end up spending £100 too much but it's not the end of the world... look at Jim, he's doing alright considering the money he's squandered.

As I said, 2 widescreen monitors (£120 each with decent spec), 2gb ram (because running autocad, adobe suite, etc together will be easy), monstrous graphics card with 2 DVI outputs preferably (£250). Good luck.

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

Anything has to be better than the shelf-life of an ibook.

I beg to differ, we have 5 year old iMacs that still happily edit movies. Not many 5 year old PC's could edit movies in the first place.

[Jim]

definately get the core 2 duo chip and make sure the motherboard has PCIe (i'm sure it will have)
make sure you get DDR2 memory and try and get a motherboard that supports the fastest type

I would custom build one but then I always have. The advantage is you can build it a bit at a time and upgarde bits as you go along

[Obi-Wan is lost...]

If your can't be bothered to build it but still want a high spec budget machine look out for weird specials like the ones Aldi (yes the cheap supermarket!) have from time to time...

like this one...

http://uk.aldi.com/special_buys/productnl_132.html

Just in case anyone is in the market for a PC currently.