Quote from: "AndyR"all those schist boulders being developed in scotland.No need to be nasty. I'm surprised we've not heard from Lincolnmaster-A on this one, i seem to remember some cocktalk threads about wirebrushing where you had some imput ages ago, whats your position on this subject? cheers.
all those schist boulders being developed in scotland.
But would you seriously try and clean new problems up in glenmacnass with a toothbrush?
I disagree, look at the sloper on the Fin,
Quote from: "Glen Dale"I disagree, look at the sloper on the Fin, Jesus, don't mention the war :wink:
and I don't want to go through it all again on here.
Quote from: "AndyR"But would you seriously try and clean new problems up in glenmacnass with a toothbrush?That's the other extreme though, and there's plenty of in-between. You can get very stiff brushes which do a great job of cleaning but where the bristles aren't so hard they actually tear into the surface of the rock.
What happens if you cannot clean a problem with a stiff non-wire brush. Is that it, is it destined not to be a problem?
Quote from: "The Dead Coat"What happens if you cannot clean a problem with a stiff non-wire brush. Is that it, is it destined not to be a problem?Maybe one could leave it for someone who could?
Maybe one could leave it for someone who could climb it in its dirty state (or for that matter someone who could clean it without a WB)?
But what would the bouldering community actually gain from that course of events?
I really am not persuaded that the occasional use of a wire brush to clean new problems on certain rock types is any form of problem whatsoever.
Once it's clean there's no need for further harsh brushing (with a wire brush, suede brush or stiff nylon brush), so there's no question of damage to the rock.
You might not think you're doing any damage when you're wirebrushing, indeed you probably won't be doing any physical damage, but the damage is done second or third hand by contributing to wirebrush culture.
Now we're getting a bit silly. Given the choice between a dirty problem & a clean problem I'd choose the clean problem every time, as I suspect everyone would.
Anyway, I do quite like the idea of the 24 hour dog.
Don't even think about using a cat you rock fucker !!!
I'll need quite a small dog to tape it to the end of the pole for reaching those high holds.
Why do you need tape? a dog has a perfectly good in-situ pole connection unit.
Think of the example you'll be setting - in a couple of years time the Plantation will be full of little dogs tied to poles, licking the rock. Is that what you want bouldering to become? Imagine slapping for the jug on Not to be Taken Away only to find that it's occupied by a discarded puppy.