not really anythin that comes close to what i wanted.
i was after stuff like the website i linked in my first post really stylised images not just nicely exposed straight shots.
I liked those pics. In answer to your questioney thing, Jon, saying you had an image of a climber hanging off some rock with a massive bolt of lightning striking a tree in the background. If the pic was of a bolt of lightning going off behind a climber i would find it much more interesting, impressive and exciting than someone photoshopping a bolt of lightning into the background of a climbing shot.In a way, it's like seeing a real first ascent of a dangerous climb versus a toproped recreation with the rope rope edited out. Bot appear the same, but one is naff.
Is it really that much different from using fill-in flash? Or that photo of Johnny Brown's of nine Toes doing the Storm lit by lamps, that people seem to like, myself included?
The value of the image therefore rests soully on our belief regarding the way the image was derived. To my mind this is slippery ground. That said there are some amazing photos on that site.
i know that the images are not photoshoped because i have been in contact with the photographer. and the point of doin something the hard way is because you can it shows your skill and talant. ever done eliminate boulder problems say no thumbs wot is the point of that? or sitting starts wots the point when you could do the problem from standing. Point and shoot is not real photography its just like holiday happy snaps to show talent and skill in camera controll is the whole point of photography at a higher level.
Quote from: Bonjoy on November 09, 2006, 04:16:07 pmThe value of the image therefore rests soully on our belief regarding the way the image was derived. To my mind this is slippery ground. That said there are some amazing photos on that site.Well this is almost an exact parallel of the analogy of genuine photographs of bold ascents, compared to staged ones with the top rope tucked around the corner.
you wouldnt be happy to stay at the same climbing grade forever would you? everyone wants to get better and it is the same for photogrphers. point and click with good exposure is the first step, then the mastery of different technical aspects of photography such as dark room techniques or advanced light metering is where you go next if you wanna get better. i say again, appealing images are even better if they have a high technical standard.