[enigma]

Finally done after 8 attempts, this surely can lay a solid claim to be the best girdle traverse on quarried grit in Cheshire.  Don't all rush at once.

[Jim]

About time to. Good effort.

[Control freak]

Surely that should be 8 years of attempts?

[dobbin]

That bit after the long back wall traverse is quite tricky. I think I went high to lurch between cracks.

[enigma]

Is this a counter claim or are you confusing the girdle with the low level traverse?

[Jim]

You'll have to excuse Dobbin, he's just a simple boy from a backwards town 

[Somebody's Fool]

Effort Ben.  What did you plump for in the end? E7 or E8?

[Jim]

Is this who I think it is? shouldn't you be at college young man!
1st post, its downhill from here on in.

[andyh]

excellent work - been lookin at that for years. right to left? the whole quarry or just the back wall?

[dobbin]

Oh. I stayed low. I did think this was an odd thing - surely people have been doing the low trav for years. I think its time I went home 

[enigma]

I started right over on the small green walls at the right and soloed over until your under The Harp.  There are 3 pitches from there: E4 5b,5c,6a with the crux right at the end leaving the shitty bird cave and passing a peg.  I've not done it all in one go though yet.

[unclesomebody]

I've not done it all in one go though yet.

   so you haven't really done it.

[enigma]

The first 2 pitches were led on a separate day to the last pitch

[Fiend]

Get in there uncle, first ascent in a day 

[unclesomebody]

I have other fish to fry at Hobson Moor. Problem is, I drive past it nearly every week but never stop!

And just to add petrol to the fire, I don't really think that counts as a first ascent. I'm not too sure what the climbing world ethics are on multi-pitch routes, but in my book it just doesn't cut the mustard.

[bigphil]

  so you haven't really done it.

The first ascent was completed after attempts spread out over several days by Nick White and Dave Thomas in 1989, the route received a one day single pitch ascent by Nic Sellars in 2003

That last quote's from UKClimbing News about The Flying Dutchman on Lundy.  I read that the first ascent took place over different days.  Anyone else think that?

Anyway, good effort Ben.

[enigma]

Oh how withering.  I make the effort to do something and then, of course, it transpires I haven't after all.  I tried the route onsite at first, but sections of it were just too filthy for that so I spent an afternoon giving it a proper cleaning.  Even after that it took a few attempts, as I kept falling of the last move.

If people really want to be pedantic and deny that this is a worthwhile ascent I'll just simply follow them down that road and claim two separate routes:  The mid-Height Girdle of the Main Wall E2 5b,5c; and The Back Wall E4 6a. 

That better is it?

[Fiend]

I can see this causing a furore to outdo the Keen Roof vs. Buoux 8c thread 

[Jim]

I can't TBH fiend.
however nevermind the flying duchman on Lundy, who here's done the flying dutchman at hobby moor and the flyingdutchman variation. me and the enigma for starters.
I'm sure you'll be back to do it in one day, can't see there been a massive rush of potential first assentionists flooding in

[Johnny Brown]

The Dorys girdle has yet to receive a one day ascent. The reasons for this are more obvious though.

[Bonjoy]

 It's not unusual for people to do FAs of mutipitches over a number of days, eg Castelan - Steve Bancroft/John Allen and Big Plum - Jerry Moffat. Obviously not as satisfactory, but a legit FA nonetheless based on this pretty rock solid historical precedent.

[dobbin]

Did the quarryman first get done over a number of days too?

[unclesomebody]

It's not unusual for people to do FAs of mutipitches over a number of days, eg Castelan - Steve Bancroft/John Allen and Big Plum - Jerry Moffat. Obviously not as satisfactory, but a legit FA nonetheless based on this pretty rock solid historical precedent.

am I understanding this correctly then... If I climb all the pitches of a multi pitch route in any order over any period of time, I can claim an ascent? I understand that there are numerous FA's out there on BIG multi pitch routes that haven't been done in a day.

[dobbin]

think so mate, yes.

[Bonjoy]

That's right Uncle, strange yet true. Personally i'd want to go back and tidy my ascent up if it was quite as messy as that but if I was just after the tick i'd already have it.